New water injection set-up
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My messing water systems has shown me that that low pressure setups like Snow, Painless, Labonte, Cooling mist and so on dont really help much above the 500rwhp. Not enough volume do to low pressure. Now I do know of someone that did two coolmist setup in stages with good results. But IMHO high pressure is the way to go. I totally think that most of the claim KB makes are true about added power and less heat. Its the shoting water mist into the wheel I dont care for. I have seen 1st hand what it does to a billet wheeled charger in a Superfarm tractor.
When the water evaporates, the air actually becomes less dense. Gases are made of molecules evenly spaced. A water molecule weighes 18, an oxygen weighs 32, and nitrogen 28.
So if you have water evaporating in a closed area, the pressure would increase, but the oxygen content would not. So 40psi boost without water, would contain the same oxygen as 44psi with water, if the water is what increased the boost.
Or at least that's what they told me in HS.
So if you have water evaporating in a closed area, the pressure would increase, but the oxygen content would not. So 40psi boost without water, would contain the same oxygen as 44psi with water, if the water is what increased the boost.
Or at least that's what they told me in HS.
I need some real world testing before i believe all the claims... a calculator can only do so much when it comes to how an engine will react
In the last ten years, I have spent a lot of time testing various aftermarket parts on a dyno and at the track.
I would say 90% of advertised claims are either false, or misleading. It doesn't mean their products are "bad", it just means they market them aggressively. I run a lot parts with inflated claims, because they still work for my needs. K&N comes to mind, and many others.
I would say 90% of advertised claims are either false, or misleading. It doesn't mean their products are "bad", it just means they market them aggressively. I run a lot parts with inflated claims, because they still work for my needs. K&N comes to mind, and many others.
What do you guys think about injecting the water into the outlet side of the compressor housing allowing more time for evaporation and such? Would this work or just fill your intercooler with water? Or even put 75% of it into the housing after the comp wheel and the other 25% into the intake manifold?
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My nozzles are both post I/C.
I would very much like to play with a high psi system, like 1000+ psi. I might toy with that some time.
I remember seeing systems as such on open mod pullers. IIRC, one had a big Haldex setup. Lots of Psi and lots of nozzles!
I would very much like to play with a high psi system, like 1000+ psi. I might toy with that some time.
I remember seeing systems as such on open mod pullers. IIRC, one had a big Haldex setup. Lots of Psi and lots of nozzles!
True, but it would need to get below 212*F (boiling point of water) to do that right? It would stay as a gas if it is above this temp correct?
Does the charge air get cooler than 212*F before the intake manifold? I've never checked.
Why are the 3 different people posting Michael's work all around the internet, claiming to be his good friend????
This just popped up on a bunch of diesel forums today by differnt posters....
Where is Mike to chime in on these threads
This just popped up on a bunch of diesel forums today by differnt posters....
Where is Mike to chime in on these threads
Why are the 3 different people posting Michael's work all around the internet, claiming to be his good friend????
This just popped up on a bunch of diesel forums today by differnt posters....
Where is Mike to chime in on these threads
Good point!
"KB please come to the office, your mom is here with your retainer and diarrhea medicine!":hurryup::jk::hehe:
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Why are the 3 different people posting Michael's work all around the internet, claiming to be his good friend????
This just popped up on a bunch of diesel forums today by differnt posters....
Where is Mike to chime in on these threads
Posted by Bill, on DF, DD, and CompD?
Why are the 3 different people posting Michael's work all around the internet, claiming to be his good friend????
This just popped up on a bunch of diesel forums today by differnt posters....
Where is Mike to chime in on these threads
Allow me to help.
1) Good friend means someone who got something or getting to do testing and pimp.
Says so right in his statistics,
Friends
Killerbee has not made any friends yet
Self explanatory ,there is no line at the door!
2) He's not a vendor so he cannot self pimp.
3) Even IF he did weasel in what he would spew is technogeek stuff that no one would understand anyway. Nor care.
Right Micheal? :rofl:
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Keep personal insults out of tech threads please. :hug:
Killerbee was a free vendor on this board at one time. It's now $50/m to advertise here to defray the costs of bandwidth, and he declined to re-up.
Yes, Pimp-a-Part is more common on other sites, but they are here as well. Heck, there is a Dodge site that Pimp-a-Part actually controls the entire site. Give Freebies, you become effectively a hidden Admin. It's kinda like diesel prostitution.
Killerbee was a free vendor on this board at one time. It's now $50/m to advertise here to defray the costs of bandwidth, and he declined to re-up.
Yes, Pimp-a-Part is more common on other sites, but they are here as well. Heck, there is a Dodge site that Pimp-a-Part actually controls the entire site. Give Freebies, you become effectively a hidden Admin. It's kinda like diesel prostitution.
Well that answers that question then. Plus I did not take into account that higher pressure raises the boiling point so IAT's would need to be higher than 212*F to stay gassy.
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