New turbo failed, compressor wheel rubbing housing

JDub

Member
Aug 9, 2009
607
0
16
Hooper, Utah
I'd definitely balance it. That wheel combo is heavy. Lots of mass flinging around at 100,000+ rpm to be out of balance...
 

A. Stock Lbz

New member
Aug 13, 2013
342
0
0
spokane wa
might as well get the housing machined for a 80mm wheel. it looks pretty rough, its not very much money to upgrade and you know it will be fixed rite.
 

Burn Down

Hotrodder
Sep 14, 2008
7,092
28
48
Boise Idaho
A little lesson here. Always tap all v-band clamps with a small hammer. It sets the clamp and clamped surfaces together. You will always have to re-torque the nut after giving the clamp a tap job. Sucks this happened...
 

PureHybrid

Isuzu Shakes IT
Feb 15, 2012
3,492
472
83
Central OH
If you buy a take-out comp wheel it should be factory balanced. The turbine shaft and compressor wheel don't have timing marks, so how do you suppose that works.
 

PACougar

Active member
Jun 27, 2012
2,105
1
36
41
El Dorado Hills, Ca
I would have it balanced and checked just to make sure the shaft is true. Even the slightest bend will destroy it quickly. As others have said it is balanced separately.
 

thunder550

Active member
Apr 2, 2013
1,176
16
38
Phoenix, AZ
James, this is from AGP's web site....have you had them work on a turbo you didn't buy from them before?

If your turbo was not purchased from AGP Turbo, please contact the company you purchased it from. If it did not start off life coming from AGP, we do not want to rebuild it.
 

Chevy1925

don't know sh!t about IFS
Staff member
Oct 21, 2009
21,670
5,817
113
Phoenix Az
James, this is from AGP's web site....have you had them work on a turbo you didn't buy from them before?

Yes ive talked to the owner (ben) and he even put time aside for me to machine my backing plate to upgrade to the 80mm wheel i had a while back. plans changed and i never followed through but ben was very willing to help me out if he could.

you might call them this morning and run it by them first. Unless you work close by to them
 

thunder550

Active member
Apr 2, 2013
1,176
16
38
Phoenix, AZ
Went and visited Ben, picked up a new wheel. Will clean up the housing when I get home and put it all back together. He said not to worry about balancing. He also took a look at the turbo and said everything else looked fine.
 

Attachments

  • uploadfromtaptalk1419359891644.jpg
    uploadfromtaptalk1419359891644.jpg
    152.8 KB · Views: 53

PureHybrid

Isuzu Shakes IT
Feb 15, 2012
3,492
472
83
Central OH
Went and visited Ben, picked up a new wheel. Will clean up the housing when I get home and put it all back together. He said not to worry about balancing. He also took a look at the turbo and said everything else looked fine.


Imagine that, a turbo guy said not to balance it :D
 

thunder550

Active member
Apr 2, 2013
1,176
16
38
Phoenix, AZ
Weird huh? Apparently the assemblies are not balanced from the factory either. He said he talked to the BW guys at SEMA and they said the components are so close to zero that it would be maybe 1 in 1000 that would need any balancing work, and even then it would be minimal.
 

thunder550

Active member
Apr 2, 2013
1,176
16
38
Phoenix, AZ
I'm all back together and running :)

Housing cleaned up
IMAG0402_zpsqahtrro2.jpg


New wheel installed
IMAG0403_zps1aopqgua.jpg


New ornament :roflmao:
IMAG0404_zpsiccmmkik.jpg
 

Harbin_22

Active member
Dec 4, 2010
3,858
7
38
Southern Indiana
I swapped my cast wheel for a billet on my S400. No balancing, ran it for more than 20,000 hard miles and now its a 83 and still going. Not sure if Mark balances them or not but he put my 83 wheel in
 

MarkBroviak

DMax Junkie
Vendor/Sponsor
May 25, 2008
2,132
461
83
Danville Indiana
The parts are neutral balanced to zero so you can swap them around without issue. Think about it this way, without it being key wayed, how would you keep the wheel and shaft lined up?
 

yellowchevy

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2010
1,926
82
48
Louisburg, KS for now
A little lesson here. Always tap all v-band clamps with a small hammer. It sets the clamp and clamped surfaces together. You will always have to re-torque the nut after giving the clamp a tap job. Sucks this happened...

I do this all the time when I assemble them:thumb:

As others have said you don't have to balance them being they're component balanced. That way, garrett, IHI, Holset, etc. can have different parts made at different factories then assemble them at there place; safes ALOT of money.
One thing to remember thought, all parts are balanced to a certain tolerance. If you so happen to line those spots up just right, you're assembly would be off even more.

Anymore, I balance all the turbo's I do. Its piece of mind so you don't have to worry. They usually have to removed some material off of the compressor wheel and turbine wheel. More generally has to be removed from the stock turbine wheel than the aftermarket compressor wheel.

Once an assemble is balanced, they will put a mark on the compressor and turbine side that you then have to line up when you reassemble your turbo.

Glad you got it fix and on your way back together.:thumb:

Yellowchevy