New Multi-tune Switch

[Killerbee]

I am developing a new 5 or 6 position switch, to take the place of what we use now. The purpose of this is to integrate your drug of choice into safe timing tables, and prevent your (nitrous) from being used in a tune that is not built for it.

Example;: In my mind it would be nice to have a switch, where the 6th position, also provides activation current for the relay that control meth or nitrous. This would insure that the drugs are only dispensed with intended parameters in that specific dsp mode, preventing unintended head stress, etc.

Also I think is would be important to have the failsafe tune on the full CW position. Right now it is just the opposite. Full CCW is the failsafe position. This requires a high power tune to be used as the failsafe (if switch fails), but all the way CCW. non-intuitive, so I will arrange it opposite so the CW position increases power to the failsafe voltage, full CW.

But I need your ideas. How would you like to see it done?

 

[Turbotug]

Need a guinea pig?

 

[Killerbee]

absolutely. ideas first. I know I haven't thought of everything.

 

[Turbotug]

Maybe make it keyed, so only the key holder can adjust the tune.:dontknow:

Someone on DP did up a DSP5 style switch like that a while back. It got a lot of interest, but he wasn't interested in producing them in any quantity.

 

[Killerbee]

if you have a link, I would like to see what they did.

 

[JOHNBOY]

While I am not a fan of switchable tunes. I like to keep things simple. I really like a he ideas you have proposed. The Defualt to to power makes very good sense and the the drug tied straight to a tune for sounds very good to.

 

[Killerbee]

Water is another example, IMO. Few folks advance timing for the retarding effects of water (no meth) injection, and they don't see significant power changes. This could couple new timing with the water, and prevent the less aggressive timing from being used.

 

[othrgrl]

You can currently arrange a DSP5 tune so that it has the safest tune in the base position. You can also use the DSP output function to activate a relay while only in the DSP positions of the switch, with the additional safegaurds of:

Minimum Thottle position
Min and Max RPM
Min and Max Boost
Min and Max Coolant temps
And they've recently added torque reduction parameters so that you can turn off the nitrous on shifts if needed.

Between the kill switch and the bottle's valve I doubt you would spray when you "didn't mean to".

Not trying to shoot you down it just seems to me that you are thinking about reinventing the wheel here.

 

[Killerbee]

Not at all. Currently you can use nitrous on any tune, unbounded. This would prevent that, and only allow the augmentation under a known tune that is safe for it.

The DSP output does not discriminate between DSP position. am I wrong about that?

 

[Turbotug]

if you have a link, I would like to see what they did.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147334&highlight=dsp5+keyed

 

[othrgrl]

Not at all. Currently you can use nitrous on any tune, unbounded. This would prevent that, and only allow the augmentation under a known tune that is safe for it.

The DSP output does not discriminate between DSP position. am I wrong about that?

If set to Enable then the DSP program must be running for the output to work (switch closed for DSP² or Programs #1 to #4 selected with DSP5), all other parameters must also be met.
If set to Disable then the output will still work regardless of the switch position, still, all other parameters must also be met.

The way I read that the DSP Output will only work while you are in one of the DSP positions, not while in the base tune. This doesn't limit it to one tune as you are describing but a simple switch on the dash and the bottle's valve can limit it regardless. The DSP Output also adds in the safegaurds I listed above so that it will only allow you to spray when safe conditions (of your choice) are met, the valve is open, the switch is armed, and you are in a DSP position. Sounds pretty safe to me. BTW thanks for this thread, I hadn't looked at the DSP Output table in a while and didn't know they had added in the TCM stuff.

 

[Killerbee]

I feel a Ross request coming on.

 

[othrgrl]

I feel a Ross request coming on.

I'm sure a call to Ross would be easier than inventing something:hug:

 

[Jasondt2001]

It's going to sound very 'gimicky' but, on the hot tune where it arms something with a voltage output (IE NOS/WaterMeth solenoid) have a LED that shines on that tune...
Showing it's 'armed' or 'flowing'

Yeah, it does sound like a gimick, but, I like things like that... LOL:rofl:

 

[Dozerboy]

if you have a link, I would like to see what they did.

It was Lakingslayer IIRC 99% sure, but I can't find the post. Shoot him a PM

 

[Turbotug]

It was. I posted a link in #10.

 

[Dozerboy]

Missed that... well I least I was right

 

[Killerbee]

Got a keylock switch type picked out. Maximizing usefulness, would there be any interest in the switch having one "momentary on" position? Priming, etc, or maybe something else.

 

[maine04max]

I really like the idea of a keyed switch .

 

[othrgrl]

Now the keyed switch does sound like it would be a good idea for some people. You would be able to lock it on a valet setting when you take it to a shop, a stockish setting if your 17 year old kid borrows it, and whatever setting you want for yourself. I just load in a valet tune when I take it to get anything done (alignment, paint, ect), which isn't very often.