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Will

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Maybe we can make this a sticky??:confused:

What are some things you guys have found help when it comes to negotiating prices on used/new vehicles? I've never been very good at it so I'm all ears.
 

Dirtymaxx03

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its pretty easy to make a car seem like a pile of crap. It depends on the seller and their knowledge. If the seller isnt very smart, sound confident in everything you say and eventually they will think they are asking way too much for the lemon car they are selling.
 

MACKIN

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Get internet prices like from KBB and other vehicles similar in your area. Most dealers work at invoice or a little above on new vehicles. Or they should
 

Poltergeist

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Never tell them you like it. Make them think you can walk away from it and not care.

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I've walked out of a dealership without looking back and had salesgeeks chasing me. :rofl: There is no car I wouldn't walk away from because there is always another one around the corner especially new ones. It also helps if you don't have a trade-in. If you do have a trade-in and they have your keys so they can 'evaluate' it and they are reluctant to give the keys back (a typical tactic) pull out a spare set from your pocket and tell them you'll be back later for the set they have. That kills their leverage.
 

Ne-max

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Like said above. Take a print out of blue book value. Also its good to have your smart phone and couple buddies to help point out what it needs. Also get pre approved by your bank. That adds leverage.
 

RENODMAX

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Dont get your heart set on anything. Be patient, and if you have cash in hand (private party sales) its even better.
 

chevyburnout1

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Never impulse buy. Ever. I had a bad problem with that. When I went to buy my truck I swore I didn't want white or peuter. Ended up with peuter haha.
 

DMAX497

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LOL!

This makes me laugh.

I am a salesman at a Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram store for a living...

Some of this is stuff cracks me up.

Some true, other things that have been said do not happen at "all" dealerships.

We all have to make a living :thumb:

This if my favorite situation looking on the inside out - " I want full Value for mine and yours for trade in value "... Response in my head - Pound Sand.
 

Texas Chevy

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I've walked out of a dealership without looking back and had sales geeks chasing me. There is no car I wouldn't walk away from because there is always another one around the corner especially new ones. It also helps if you don't have a trade-in. If you do have a trade-in and they have your keys so they can 'evaluate' it and they are reluctant to give the keys back (a typical tactic) pull out a spare set from your pocket and tell them you'll be back later for the set they have. That kills their leverage.

LOL this is funny to me because I was at a gmc dealer and the guy took my truck back and offered me $9000.00 for it I said no deal he said ok well lets shake hands so I know we are still friends. I said no deal but friends ok. He came back with his manager who says congratulations and I got upset and asked for my keys. They wouldn’t give them back I got really upset and made a scene threatened to call the cops and all and finally after a hour of arguing they gave them back my wife was literally standing between me and prison. <O:p></O:p>
on topic show you can walk away they will chase you down. <O:p></O:p>
 

MACKIN

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I agree

Buying a vehicle today is a whole lot different then it was years ago. Most big volume dealers are near or at invoice or what they refer to as invoice. That's not what they pay for the vehicle.

So the only prep one can do besides not impulse buy is research the invoice price. This IMO keeps everyone honest. Of course I'm talking new purchase not used car dealers but the same applies research what the value truely is.





LOL!

This makes me laugh.

I am a salesman at a Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram store for a living...

Some of this is stuff cracks me up.

Some true, other things that have been said do not happen at "all" dealerships.

We all have to make a living :thumb:

This if my favorite situation looking on the inside out - " I want full Value for mine and yours for trade in value "... Response in my head - Pound Sand.
 

Tank222

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X2

I've walked out of a dealership without looking back and had salesgeeks chasing me. :rofl: There is no car I wouldn't walk away from because there is always another one around the corner especially new ones. It also helps if you don't have a trade-in. If you do have a trade-in and they have your keys so they can 'evaluate' it and they are reluctant to give the keys back (a typical tactic) pull out a spare set from your pocket and tell them you'll be back later for the set they have. That kills their leverage.

I'm a sales manager at a MC dealer and sold cars for a couple years as well.
It's crazy the stories you hear about sales people and dealers. It's not that hard. Just don't come in acting like a dick head.
 

Darius6t9

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If you have a trade-in, here is my story as an example. I traded in my 2002 Mitsubishi Galant for a 2003 Chevy 1500HD. I already did my research on how much my trade was worth both trade value and re-sale value. (what they would most likely sell it for.) Which was $8000 trade ( I knew they would never pay that much for it in my lifetime.) and $11000 resell. I knew there was nothing wrong with it. They have to add that (repairs) into their cost when selling it. The more it cost to fix, the less profit they make. They don't always add that to the cost. Their first offer to me for the car was $2000. Btw, I originally payed $14000 for the car used. I politely told them "I don't mean no disrespect but I am not an idiot. There is nothing wrong with the car mechanically. And I it is worth $8000 trade in. I know I'm not getting that. But that is what it's worth. I know you are going to turn it around and sell it for at least $11000 if not $13000. So the magic number that I want to see for this car is At least $6000 to $6500 trade in. And you are still seeing a profit of $5000 on this car as is." I got the $6000 Trade in. :D

Sorry for the long post, but sometimes it's easier to see what one is talking about through their experience.
 

Will

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Keep the tips coming guys. I'm learning a fair amount. Personally I'm looking for a 09-11(11's are probably a bit out of my range right not but I'm looking) crew cab LTZ. Most the ones I'm seeing that I like on autotrader are going for 44K+.