Help: need help bad PLEASE

Aaronbryant89

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Also It started doing it when it got cold but it seems it has nothing to do with it... tonight in my garage which was 68 degrees and the engine had ran a couple timessage prior it stalled when started...

As far as the fuel I went and bought a filter and I'm gonna change that just to be able to get rid of that possibility

Btw thanks for all the help so far I very much appreciate it man
 

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Also It started doing it when it got cold but it seems it has nothing to do with it... tonight in my garage which was 68 degrees and the engine had ran a couple timessage prior it stalled when started...

As far as the fuel I went and bought a filter and I'm gonna change that just to be able to get rid of that possibility

Btw thanks for all the help so far I very much appreciate it man

Lol, sure
Not sure if helpful:confused:

You got it in your garage?
Don't think it would switch out of park if the TCM was fried?
In fact, I'm not even sure it would start or even turn over at all if there was no communication with the TCM?
Does the dash say "shift range limited" or anything strange?
Any CEL (warning) lights on, in your gauge cluster?

I'm not that savvy at all about this stuff and I'm not the greatest at distance diagnosis
But the more you talk about it the more it seems like a fuel related issue

Hopefully some of the smart members bite and help ya out, I'm more or less just brainstorming :eek:

:hug:
 

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Ok, so I just looked at your pics...of codes...


Some research indicates The P0827 code is for your up down switch, aka the "tap shift button" on the gear selector. Some further research leads me to believe that the leads for the tap shifter grounded in the steering column or the tap shifter needs to be replaced...you can pull the lower cover off the column to investigate but I'd suggest plugging some of those codes into a Google search...

And the pics are nice, but in the future for asking questions maybe just list/type the codes out in your post-k
:D

And evidently, the IGN0 fuse is related to that circuit, just FYI...so if you're not getting power at the fuse it seems very plausible that there is a ground/short somewhere that just let go...
 

NC-smokinlmm

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Try taking a piece of wire and attaching it to the battery ground then touching the tcm case and see if it gets voltage. There is a know problem with tcms shorting out there ground.
 

Aaronbryant89

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Yes it will start (sometimes stalls) and drive just fine.. shifts through all the gears greatas if nothing is wrong just throws this code

I wanna fix it before it gets worse though I'm gonna use this truck to pull my show car and I'd hate for it to break down :(
 

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Yes it will start (sometimes stalls) and drive just fine.. shifts through all the gears greatas if nothing is wrong just throws this code

I wanna fix it before it gets worse though I'm gonna use this truck to pull my show car and I'd hate for it to break down :(

Does the tap shifter work properly?
 

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Just throwing this out there but I've seen lots of weird issues caused from a mouse nest under the fuse panel under the hood.

Lift the panel up and make sure you don't have a bunch of chewed on wires.

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NC-smokinlmm

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Just throwing this out there but I've seen lots of weird issues caused from a mouse nest under the fuse panel under the hood.

Lift the panel up and make sure you don't have a bunch of chewed on wires.

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This^^^^

You try grounding the tcm case yet?
 

Aaronbryant89

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No I have not tryed to ground the tcm case yet.. I will when I get home... but if I'm not getting any kinda voltage to the fuses that supply power to the tcm then the ground isn't gonna do anything right? I will still try It though.. I need to figure this out
 

Aaronbryant89

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Gm up fitter does not have the 2006 lbz wiring... under the selection it says 2003 and beyond.. after clicking it it only have lb7 and lly
 

Aaronbryant89

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I took the fuse box apart up front and everything looks good.. I did not try to ground the tcm (sticker clearly says to not put anything electrical near it) right now it's at least drivable to a shop if I can not figure it out and I don't wanna do more damage than what is already done .. I'm still not getting power to the 2 fuses inside the cabin.. I pulled all the relays and swapped them all to make sure it wasn't a bad relay and thst didn't do anything.. I think I need to figure out what feeds those 2 fuses power but since their is 32 million wires in this thing it's gonna be hard to try and track it down unless I can find a wiring diagram that directly shows what powers them .. I've loom at the gm up fitter and didn't find anything that would help me
 

jlawles2

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Before you try to start, try the primer pump a couple of times. I had a bad filter head that would cause it to start then immediately stall. Then would not want to try and start. Pumped the primer (did not bleed) and it started fine for days.

Only seemed to happen while on vacation and if i parked the truck on an incline with the front bumper up hill.
 

Aaronbryant89

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After the ignition switch where does all the wires go to distribute the power to all the fuses? That's what I'm needing to know in order to try to track down this no voltage problem
 

Dozerboy

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You can ground the tcm case. The warning is just so you don't bump it with jumper cables.

IMO take it to a good shop don't just asume the dealer will get it right. Next thing you know you will be a few grand in the hole and still have a broke truck.

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How old are the batteries? Had some weird electric stuff go on when they died on our LBZ, would check with enough Volts but still were bad, just throwing it out