Neat article, with a glimmer of hope

zakkb787

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Very cool article. Seems to me that since excess fuel would be eliminated, our mpg could drastically increase too. I don’t like that they’re still wanting to utilize an EGR system, but it’s better than a complete DPF/DEF system for sure. Possibly more power too?

I’m curious to see if this will take off, or be silently killed by big oil, much like the rumored carb that gave killer mpg. Those guys don’t like losing a dime even if it’s for a good cause it seems like.
 

DAVe3283

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If little to no soot is generated in the combustion process, most of the problems with EGR go away. Kind of like EGR on a gas engine, they never build up nearly as much crap in the intake as diesels with EGR do. So maybe EGR won't be so bad in this case?
 

2004LB7

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As much as I like advancement in the motor industry, if this really works as they say it will still be 20 years or more before we see it in our vehicles.

Sad that there isn't a system or process in place to push this type of testing into production vehicles quicker so we can get some real data and testing done

Something like the dealership will cut 50% off the list price of a vehicle for "experimental tech". Then something like onstar reports back operating data, mpg, etc and the owner fills out routine surveys of drivability, noise, reliability, cost, etc. Have maybe 500 or a thousand built and sent out to various parts of the country or have a sign up system. Then they own them just like any other vehicle but with special CARB/epa exemptions

Not sure how this program would get funded without taxing us more though
 

zakkb787

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Seems to be the next step in “direct injection”. Diesels already inject them fuel where it needs to be. Now they’re directly aiming it where it needs to be for the most efficient burn. I’m amazed this hasn’t came up before. So simple.
 

Chevy1925

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As much as I like advancement in the motor industry, if this really works as they say it will still be 20 years or more before we see it in our vehicles.

Sad that there isn't a system or process in place to push this type of testing into production vehicles quicker so we can get some real data and testing done

Something like the dealership will cut 50% off the list price of a vehicle for "experimental tech". Then something like onstar reports back operating data, mpg, etc and the owner fills out routine surveys of drivability, noise, reliability, cost, etc. Have maybe 500 or a thousand built and sent out to various parts of the country or have a sign up system. Then they own them just like any other vehicle but with special CARB/epa exemptions

Not sure how this program would get funded without taxing us more though



I don’t see it. Mfg monitor much more in depth than what onstar would be able to transmit. Maybe if the vehicle was about 90% ready for market but defeats the purpose. Mfg have shit tons of sensors/boxes/custom parts monitoring far more than the typical car system watches to see what torque loads, changes and possible wear a part will see. I’ve seen a few of these test cars and it’s nuts what they have in place.