My osama rant

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sweetdiesel

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The only thing I didnt like about watching the news is all the cheering people, as that makes us no better than them as they were celebrating on 9/11.

And to me, it seems like everyone I know locally thinks this is the end of the war, IMHo that couldnt be more from the truth.

I am in the Iraq right now working. They have sent all Americans home as a precaution that where on my location.

Many people sad and angry from the news of his death, I want to say something, but it's a fine line that I shouldn't cross.

These people live for war! It's not over!
 

MACKIN

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I myself have a difficult time buying into a conspiracy theory with the downing of the World Trade Centers.

To answer your question although a logical reason would be to make war,plain and simple. Spread our troop out to keep an eye on other countries and to justify our war machine. Otherwise we'd be only protecting cargo ships against pirates off the Somalian coast.

It is hard to believe our country maybe I don't want to believe is capable of killing so many innocent civilians to give the Terrorists Extremest credit and they ride along in agreement. Where are these Bomb setters? So hard for me to believe the MASS of people that would be involved in such a plot and keep secrecy where as no one has seen or said a peep in 10 years except for 'possibly' or a theory with out serious concrete proof with out a shadow of doubt!

How do they get the terrorist to go along for the ride? Just like if OBL being dead for years and now the Americans are claiming they have killed them why aren't they coming forward and saying bull**** he's already dead creating a point to disprove our truths and are nothing but a bunch of lairs?

Atleast France would be on their side. :D
 

Poltergeist

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Any video you so choose, obviously youtube is the best video source, just make ure you pick a few vids to watch, and dont watch the conspiracy ones, as they could be edited (any of them could be)...but just watch a bunch of different vids of the towers falling and watch right under where it is falling, you can EASILY see the explosives going off... i think that is not even to be argued.

I think it can be argued. The planes hit at mid height of the buildings. When that steel gave way in that area you had hundreds of thousands of pounds of the upper building falling straight down (the fuel went down the center of the building via the elevator shafts). As that weight came down on each floor your going to have a concussion wave created from the impact. This concussion wave would blow out debris/dirt/dust (from drywall, concrete etc), basically everything, out just like an explosion mostly because it is an explosion from the impact.
 

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I think it can be argued. The planes hit at mid height of the buildings. When that steel gave way in that area you had hundreds of thousands of pounds of the upper building falling straight down (the fuel went down the center of the building via the elevator shafts). As that weight came down on each floor your going to have a concussion wave created from the impact. This concussion wave would blow out debris/dirt/dust (from drywall, concrete etc), basically everything, out just like an explosion mostly because it is an explosion from the impact.

X2, seems everyone that knows basic physics would understand this. Once again it seems the theorys are all based on assumtions. There is never any real facts, even the facts that are stated, theres always something left out. Im most defenatly not saying i trust the government by any means, but there is some far fetched conspiracys out there, and they are no better than the media. Im still waiting to see where that test tower is they are running planes into to see what really happens. Because it seems theres so many people that know what happens.
 

MACKIN

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X2, seems everyone that knows basic physics would understand this. Once again it seems the theorys are all based on assumtions. There is never any real facts, even the facts that are stated, theres always something left out. Im most defenatly not saying i trust the government by any means, but there is some far fetched conspiracys out there, and they are no better than the media. Im still waiting to see where that test tower is they are running planes into to see what really happens. Because it seems theres so many people that know what happens.


I agree also I do not trust our Gov and it does seem that everyone knows or thinks they know what would happen if a plane is crashed into a tower and the end of the catastrophic event. IMO they could not even duplicate the event.

I'm no conspiracy theorist but the amount of individuals involved to carry out a inside job is unfathomable to have no one coming forward! Same as OBL being dead for years . Perhaps the body was put to the sea as they wanted no proof of the damage done to his body. Perhaps the tortured him who knows.

I also believe as I stated earlier about no public out cry about his religious belief in burial. Who really knows

I hear today on the media he was unarmed and I believe his wife survived. I wonder IF she will be capable or going to tell her story.
 

McRat

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They should sell the pictures and video to help with Budget Crisis.

China is reporting Pakistan did the operation.

The Pakistani's are now upset we didn't ask permission.

It was a gated community for the wealthy. Many if not most his neighbors were retired high level brass in the Pakistani armed forces. It was the only house that didn't put out it's trash, and had no phone lines. The women who were seen looked out of place, like foreigners. There was freaking ugly barbed wire on the way-too-tall walls. In a gated community?

Even Kissinger who is often ambigious when saying negative things about other countries is saying Pakistan had to know he was there.

Next comes the lion tamer, and the finale will be the trapeze act.
 

MACKIN

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I'm sure the secrecy was done simply for their own personal safety. Some what cowardly but think about it if his cover is blown your gone. As far as the Government and Military knowing that is inexcusable. For what we are doing for them its BS with the loss of our service personnel lives!

As far as the civilians they know no better and I'm sure the fear of being killed will make you look the other way. It's a strange world over there
 

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Any video you so choose, obviously youtube is the best video source, just make ure you pick a few vids to watch, and dont watch the conspiracy ones, as they could be edited (any of them could be)...but just watch a bunch of different vids of the towers falling and watch right under where it is falling, you can EASILY see the explosives going off... i think that is not even to be argued.
I feel that statements like this are unnecessary. First you say the best video source is youtube first and second what do you know about collapsing structure? That is a complete and total assumption with zero fact other than "der I watched it on youtube". Do me a favor and jump in your kiddie pool. See where the water goes. It must have been the US government secretly blowing the water up.
 

bluessmax

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I feel that statements like this are unnecessary. First you say the best video source is youtube first and second what do you know about collapsing structure? That is a complete and total assumption with zero fact other than "der I watched it on youtube". Do me a favor and jump in your kiddie pool. See where the water goes. It must have been the US government secretly blowing the water up.

Exactly why I don't hang out on forums much, you make a post to stir up some conversation on a interesting matter, state your opinion, and some fella tells you to swim in a kiddie pool... Lol, cracks me up.. Done with this conversation... Got a truck to build.. And a pool to swim in... :)
 

bluessmax

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I feel that statements like this are unnecessary. First you say the best video source is youtube first and second what do you know about collapsing structure?

I know prolly no more than you do about a collapsing structure to be honest, sorry I stated my opinion guy..

I will say YouTube is the best video source... Umm that's obvious.. Where was your argument there, what was the reason for coming off your post as so defensive? It is posts like that, that are what I find unnecessary and very senseless... Thanks for stating your opinion though.. Or did you state one? Don't think so, think you just bashed the OP... How about state something worth stating or STFU. Thanks
 

bluessmax

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X2 Pat you are right... I didn't figure it really would of went far at all.. But was fun seeing some others insight and opinions... This one was off in left field, lesson learned :)
 

RENODMAX

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What do you know about structure? The kiddie pool was a volume joke... Opinions shouldn't be stated without some factual basis. Yours was YouTube.
 

Vrabel

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Hmm, all it takes is a man with some some slight common sense to see that 911 was an inside job. Period. Do you really think the tower just collapsed due to a fire? Please explain to me why the media tried so hard to avoid that there was bombs planted in the world trade center? Please elaborate, also... Watch the videos, doesnt American airlines have windows on their planes? Another question, was it a plane that hit the pentagon? Instead of saying "that's conspiracy" I would appreciate some elaboration on where you stand with this, and your reasoning behind it. Possibly I've missed something.. Also, please don't tell me I do too much reading on conspiracy.. It is only my personal analyzing from curiosity that sets me in motion to look outside the box. Please, educate me....

From some body who lives 45 miles outside NYC, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!
Jeremy Glick lived in my nieghborhood
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LLYD_MAX

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Anyone else notice that he is no longer called Osama Bin Laden.....

He is now referred to as Usama Bin Laden.... Why??? all the new media spells it completely differnt than when Bush was in Office.

I think its because OBAMA and OSAMA sound to much alike and Obama forces the news media to report it differntly

Am I the only one who has noticed this?
 

Whitetail Addict

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Anyone else notice that he is no longer called Osama Bin Laden.....

He is now referred to as Usama Bin Laden.... Why??? all the new media spells it completely differnt than when Bush was in Office.

I think its because OBAMA and OSAMA sound to much alike and Obama forces the news media to report it differntly

Am I the only one who has noticed this?

Usama bin Laden was his original name. If I remember correctly it was changed to Osama by most media because it was too close to the acronym for, I believe, the USA Military Academy.
 
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