Do you realize that you're accusing the federal government of the United States of murdering its own citizens? Please explain your theory and back it up with facts. Like which explosive would be required to cut through those beams and how it would remain stable enough to survive the fire and impact from an airliner. Or how these "bombs" were set off silently and with no visible concussion wave amidst a burning building and after the initial impact. Or how it is that you can see the tiny windows on an airliner from a couple thousand feet. If you have an explosives background, then please enlighten me as my training must have been sadly lacking. And above all if you have information that would prove anything you're saying, then why have you lacked the courage to speak for the last ten years?
My osama rant
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I have to say, with all the terror we've had this past week living through a tornado, hearing BL had been killed certainly put a smile on my face! 
9/11 definately was not an inside job. Yes, I think a tower can fall due to a fire. What temperature does steel start to loose it's structural rigidity at? Probably lower than Jet A burns at. Add to the fact the plane was stuffed with fuel for a cross country flight to Frisco IIRC. Add hundreds of tons of building to that equasion and the proof is there.
Have you ever seen a person hit the water going 100mph? Lots of small pieces. Same way with an airplane with a building, IMHO.
In no way am I accousing you of the wrong, but IMO if you think 9/11 was an inside job your not an american. We all remember where we were then, and what has happened since then untill today. My opinion comes from a family that is/was all military, so it might be skewed a little.
Its so funny that everybody thinks they should know what happens when a full sized airliner hits a building of that size at speed. I love this one "oh engineers say the building shouldnt have fallen because it was built to take a hit". I would love for one of these engineers, or people that believe this to show me where the test tower for that is? I mean ill go watch on the next test date!! Or how about when they say what fuel burns at, and how the steel shouldnt have melted. They forget to mention there is so many variations of what temp fuel can burn at, that they really dont know how hot the fire got, ever wonder why you can make different egts with your truck??? Guess what, Jet A is pretty close to diesel. Its funny i bet most people that beleive this have never even stepped onto a construction site when a building is coming up, for all they know buildings are built perfect like they were designed on paper. Well i can tell you, people are out there making stuff work, all the things the engineers didnt design right, the field guys are fixing. So as far as engineers knowing wether or not a building should fall.... their clueless.
I bet the government is causing all the tornados and floods too. I mean they have to be right? :roflmao:
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I got a good laugh last time i watch one of them consperiecy shows, one of the more popular ones. Here lies the problems, they have NO more facts than the media has. They stated that they had to have rigged the elevator shaft with explosives, and the Elevator company was probably in on it.:roflmao: The twin towers had 2 full time service guys (which one died saving people) and 2 full time repair crews. We protect our work... their is no way someone got inside that elevator shaft without anyone knowing, i can gaurantee you that. Those documentarys do nothing but try and brain wash people with half assed facts, and half ass experts.
OBL, Hitler, and Elvis are all still alive.
There is a group who defends high profile gays called the Bun World Order, and made them "disappear" before their gayness became public.
The WTC was "blown down" by BWO operatives, not "blown up".
There is a group who defends high profile gays called the Bun World Order, and made them "disappear" before their gayness became public.
The WTC was "blown down" by BWO operatives, not "blown up".
Education:
Planes are missing. Passengers and crew are missing. Terrorists are missing. Planes witnessed crashing into buildings.
This there is proof of.
Explosives present. Missiles. Coverup.
This there is no proof of.
Theories need to be based on facts. Explosives and missiles have no more validity than saying the WTC never existed, and the whole building was just an elaborate hoax. Sure it COULD be true that there never was a WTC, but then evidence rears it's ugly head.
The fact there are "expert engineers" in the world that claim that steel doesn't weaken as a function of temperature has me really worried. Lordy I hope they've never really designed anything. Even a High School shop student can tell you that steel is softer when you heat it. Blacksmiths from the Middle Ages knew this.
Now, if it were a conspiracy to take over the Middle East, personally I would have nuked Tehran, Bagdad, etc. Or at least fire bombed all the large cities. Why? If I'm willing to kill civilians, I'm willing to kill civilians. The fact is, the US and Coalition forces spend BILLIONS to avoid civilian targets at all costs.
Now if you want conspiracy, I have the facts.
The USA knew that the Islamic Imperialists (those Muslims who believe in world domination through force of arms) were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. The Russians warned us to stay out of it, but we didn't. We assisted the II, and we paid the price. Did we learn our lesson? No.
We are still allies with Pakistan. Pakistan is the world's greatest threat, and is dominated by II. They provided nuke tech to North Korea, Iran, Iraq, and perhaps others. Now, we find that Pakistan has been harboring OBL and his high command for nearly a decade. Pakistan is like Germany in 1930. It will overtaken by more radical forces, and has both nukes and delivery systems. Pakistan will perhaps invade it's Islamic neighbors, and the world will appease them. Then they will take India, and WWIII will start.
Now that is just a theory, but I have both hard evidence, and historical events to back it up. Not just some "engineers" who are either lying about their credentials or are deliberately lying about engineering.
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The Osama Bin Laden: Two shots and a splash of water.
The Osama Bin Laden: Two shots and a splash of water.
I'm with you Kory. Anyone who doesn't think false flag terror exists needs to read the de-classified Operation Northwoods. That opened my eyes big time. Or search "Norman Manetta testimony" or "Firefighters hear explosions". This world is far more f'd up than most would like to believe.
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"Osama was at first pleased when he heard that a Target was opening in his neighborhood..."
"Last Words: If I had a half a brain, I'd quit the terrorist stuff."
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The problem Pat is that when these 'experts' are talking they will just put Engineer under their name and not say what type of engineer they are. ie software, electrical, biomedical etc etc. Hell I've used the title of Systems Engineer in the past (it was correct for what I was doing at the time). But unless the experts are Structural Engineers their thoughts and info are useless but none of the conspiracy shows are going to tell you what their background really is.
I agree, what "experts" some are taking their advice from is whacked out im sure.. however, you can SEE the explosives firing out of the building on its way down no matter what video you watch as it falls.. and im by far no expert by any means, but it does seem common sense that the building would of not just free fell as it did from a fire happening at that high of a hit.. As far as tornados, hurricanes, all that good stuff... My belief is vigorous hippo sex... possibly many hippos are making an effort to cause natural disasters by instinct.. I appreciate the sarcasm :hug:
Thanks Pat for chiming in also, interesting... These things could go on and on and on... and we are obviously all entitled to believe whatever we wish.. I do not believe many of the things i see and hear, but if it is something that common sense can help me on, i tend to dig in! Boy wouldn't a conspiracy theory thread get interesting? haha
Thanks Pat for chiming in also, interesting... These things could go on and on and on... and we are obviously all entitled to believe whatever we wish.. I do not believe many of the things i see and hear, but if it is something that common sense can help me on, i tend to dig in! Boy wouldn't a conspiracy theory thread get interesting? haha
so............did lee harvey oswald kill jfk?
Personally i hope the SOB isnt dead but still alive and sittin in a underground US bunker bein tortured slowly for all those familys he hurt and men/women he has killed. that would make my year.
Personally i hope the SOB isnt dead but still alive and sittin in a underground US bunker bein tortured slowly for all those familys he hurt and men/women he has killed. that would make my year.
Where are the videos? Who made them?
And yes, that thread would be very interesting, gives us somthing else to talk about :rofl:
do you have facts and proof that It's never happened in the past? I'm not trying to be an ass, just asking a very honest question
Everyone is entitled to believe what they believe, and I do not believe that the richest most powerful nation on the planet doesn't have a few skeletons in the closet. But in this case, I don't see the motivation of the US government to perpetrate this crime. It's just way to much work. What great benefit has the US reaped from the last 10 years? We didn't roll in and TAKE the oil in the mid-east. The monitoring of us and loss of civil liberties was a foregone conclusion. (everyone smile and wave at your smartphone) :hifinger: Yeah the military industrial complex has done well but they are laying people off now. Did we gain more influence in the world? No, China is laughing all the way to the bank because we have been distracted fighting people that are centuries behind us in every way. SO Cui Bono? Who benefits?
You find somebody besides Islamic Radicals that had reason to knock down buildings and kill thousands and then worry about how they pulled off the most brilliant lie in the history of mankind.
You find somebody besides Islamic Radicals that had reason to knock down buildings and kill thousands and then worry about how they pulled off the most brilliant lie in the history of mankind.
Any video you so choose, obviously youtube is the best video source, just make ure you pick a few vids to watch, and dont watch the conspiracy ones, as they could be edited (any of them could be)...but just watch a bunch of different vids of the towers falling and watch right under where it is falling, you can EASILY see the explosives going off... i think that is not even to be argued.
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