Motor Build

[SIKDMAX]

Looks like you are somewhat covered. Review a few threads Ive made about rebuilding engine stuff.

Definitely get with Guy on a Damper. Also I would investigate his Stage 1 heads or some head parts (springs, etc)

If you are running twins I would spring for the 625s.

Look into a SoCal cam as well.... not too much $$ for an awesome product.

 

[JoshH]

Thats what I needed to know. I see they arent too bad in price.

Anythign else i need with them?? Or just the set.

Im looking at the ones from guy, if there are other options out there or better ones let me know

You will need the spring seats and retainers too. I went with the steel retainers, but depending on how many RPMs you want to turn, you may want to go with titanium.

 

[durallymax]

i wasnt experience at building trannies and mine still runs fine.

Im not in this to have it done perfect and professional, im in this to learn thats why i bought the truck in the first place. I will be putting it together. I know theres special tools and specs which is why i bought the manuals and buy specials tools or make them as needed.

Now as for his rods, are they cheaper than the old carrillo price or the new price?? he doesnt list prices on his site. I have no doubt his rods ar good, but id rather go with something i have heard a lot of good things about vs something ive heard they are super light super strong and super precision

I know curtis does good work and dont doubt him ive talked to him quite a bit in the past, but ill be building it myself.

 

[durallymax]

Looks like you are somewhat covered. Review a few threads Ive made about rebuilding engine stuff.

Definitely get with Guy on a Damper. Also I would investigate his Stage 1 heads or some head parts (springs, etc)

If you are running twins I would spring for the 625s.

Look into a SoCal cam as well.... not too much $$ for an awesome product.

I wont be running twin turbos anytime soon. I would like to some time, but ims ure the motor will be back out again before then.

The stage I and II heads interest me but not interested in putting down that kind of cash for now.

The cam interests me too, but ill leave that out for now. Unless i just do an off the shelf comps cam instead of one of guys custom grinds

 

[durallymax]

I heard a rumor somewhere his rods are the same as the howards rods which i would assume would make them more expensive.

 

[JoshH]

Because his rods are lighter and super strong and super precision, and they even cost a few hundred$ less.

I had originally planned on going with the Howard's/DPR rods in my re-rebuild, but I decided to go with Carrillo rods in my engine simply due to the fact that I experimented with a set of unproven rods the first time around and was afraid of getting bitten again. Not to say that Curtis's rods aren't strong, I just haven't heard much about them. It makes me feel a little uneasy.

If you're not experienced at building engines, have Curtis put it together. Definitely worth knowing it's done right. And again....he can answer every one of your questions.

I disagree. You can't get experience without doing it. Besides, there's a certain pride that comes with doing something yourself. Not to mention this is obviously a budget build. Budget builds don't usually have much room for labor charges.

 

[SIKDMAX]

Just FYI theres like $100 difference from comp and socal cam, Id go with the custom when/if you do

 

[durallymax]

I disagree. You can't get experience without doing it. Besides, there's a certain pride that comes with doing something yourself. Not to mention this is obviously a budget build. Budget builds don't usually have much room for labor charges.

exactly why i do everything myself. Im in school for this but dont start shop classes till next year, just generals now as it is an associates degree. Now im starting to second guess if i really feel like turning wrenchs all day everyday. Might just go back to farming

Getting experience and learning is why my parents agreed to cosign and let me purchase the truck 2 years ago when i was 16. I dont think theyd ever imagined it would turn into this though.

However getting experience has taught me alot, but spread across town and now I have another source of income.

 

[durallymax]

Just FYI theres like $100 difference from comp and socal cam, Id go with the custom when/if you do

it only makes sense then i was thinking there was a bigger spread.

I want to run ported heads in the future but dont want to have to buy cams twice.

 

[JoshH]

Unless you have an extra $1000 laying around, I wouldn't get a cam right now.

 

[ripmf666]

not shure on the head gaskets man , if i was building for some one else i would say replace but they were just put on your truck . for myself it is a pain to change them so i would probably replace again as cheap insurance but there have been plenty of times i have had more time than money and might gamble.

YOU can not reuse the head gaskets at all no pass go.

 

[durallymax]

YOU can not reuse the head gaskets at all no pass go.

thats kinda what i figured, sucks that i have to buy another set though after only 1,000 miles

 

[Idaho CTD]

Why? How many people running standard ARP head studs are lifting heads?

With a single turbo I would run the standard studs if I already had them but I'm more of a prevenative maintanence type of person. That and the fact I'd run twins.

 

[JoshH]

With a single turbo I would run the standard studs if I already had them but I'm more of a prevenative maintanence type of person. That and the fact I'd run twins.

So are you telling me I need to drop some coin on 625 studs?

 

[durallymax]

Unless you have an extra $1000 laying around, I wouldn't get a cam right now.

pretty much my thoughts. Like I said im building it to hold up, more go fast goodies can come later.

 

[durallymax]

With a single turbo I would run the standard studs if I already had them but I'm more of a prevenative maintanence type of person. That and the fact I'd run twins.

well pm me and ill get you my adress and you can cut me a check for the twins and 625 studs

 

[ripmf666]

I get head gaskets for around 86 and 83 bucks thats the right then the left, I can get the studs for around 550 area,I'm not sold on the main studs.I built my motor for 10,800 with th einjectors and dual cp3 kit.

 

[Utahski]

I had originally planned on going with the Howard's/DPR rods in my re-rebuild, but I decided to go with Carrillo rods in my engine simply due to the fact that I experimented with a set of unproven rods the first time around and was afraid of getting bitten again. Not to say that Curtis's rods aren't strong, I just haven't heard much about them. It makes me feel a little uneasy. I disagree. You can't get experience without doing it. Besides, there's a certain pride that comes with doing something yourself. Not to mention this is obviously a budget build. Budget builds don't usually have much room for labor charges.

A lot of time was spent developing those rods, and more care goes into manufacturing than you'd ever imagine. They've only been available for about a year but they're sure not unproven....several big power engines including almost 350mph at Bonneville. There was a thread about this on DP I believe.

People have to suit themselves on a build. But parts are expensive and it's a big hassle if something goes wrong, so cutting corners is false economy. Curtis is building me an engine and I'll be real comfortable knowing it was done right. Hard to put a price on that.

 

[durallymax]

A lot of time was spent developing those rods, and more care goes into manufacturing than you'd ever imagine. They've only been available for about a year but they're sure not unproven....several big power engines including almost 350mph at Bonneville. There was a thread about this on DP I believe.

People have to suit themselves on a build. But parts are expensive and it's a big hassle if something goes wrong, so cutting corners is false economy. Curtis is building me an engine and I'll be real comfortable knowing it was done right. Hard to put a price on that.

I agree that curtis builds good stuff, and know it would be done right.

However i dont consider carrillos as cutting corners. And going with something thats been on the market for only a year scares me, so ill go with something thats proven.

 

[Utahski]

I heard a rumor somewhere his rods are the same as the howards rods which i would assume would make them more expensive.

Same rods. Sold by him and Howards. Curtis designed, torture tested, redesigned, did more torture testing, and worked with the manufacturing processes. Nothing stronger or better.