Moral dilemma on posting tunes

[Dozerboy]

I would like to hear a lot from the member here that charge for custom tuning.

I have been working on a tune for weeks and researching tuning for as long as EFI has been out. This tune started as a tune on DP. I have changed it to the point where its nowhere close to what it started out as. I have been thinking of posting it when I'm done. But in one table among several limiting tables and a few other basic mods I took ques from the tuner that sold me EFI. The limiting tables and basic stuff doesn't bother me really at some point everyone has to do these mods to some degree. I don't know how conferable I am with the one table though. I didn't copy the table if you took one of his tunes and mine you might see where I got some ideas, but they're nowhere close to being a match. This may not be the case by the time I'm ready to post the tune. I'm have lots of ideas I'm going to explore yet, but it could end up even looking more like his tune.

Well?

 

[MMLMM]

Up to you man, If you truly spent alot of your time on it its pretty much yours. If you moved a few tables by percentage, its not much work by you. How much time do you have invested in it. Like you said it was already posted on DP before. There will be signatures in it hidden if it is by someone reputable, and I also dont think many of the good tuners on here have anything posted on DP...

 

[Dozerboy]

The techniques that bother me are one I have gotten from the tunes I got with my EFI purchase not from the tune on DP.

 

[duramaximizer]

A lot of the "best tunes" are going to have general similarities. Those things, I wouldn't worry about. At some point if you are truely tuning something your tune will naturely end up looking like a canned tune. It is what it is.

I went to Nick's tuning class and he has a "technique" that works for him. He was nice enough to share it with us. Is it going to show in some of my future tunes? YES. Do I feel guilty about it when it is my work? NO. Am I going to flat out copy a tune of his and post it on an internet forum claiming as mine? NO.

My work is my work. His work is his work. I don't mix the 2. We have an agreement if I use his tune/tunes.

When I make tunes I am not going to post them on the internet. They are my work, but if you want to post them, then that's fine if they are truely yours.

You are doing a mix and match and wondering if it's yours. IDK

 

[TheBac]

Well, look at the furor that started when I said I showed a log file to another tuner of a run using another person's tune...

This is just my opinion.....If the tune is "out in the open" like in the DP or DD library, then I guess its fair to share it, as anyone has access to it. If its a tune you bought, or have to buy access to, then its not ok to share it.

I was very surprised that Nick was ok with Mark doing adjustments on his tune during our dyno. Thats cool that they worked together like that.

 

[Dozerboy]

You are doing a mix and match and wondering if it's yours.

Is that suppose to mean something? I built the tune it isn't a bunch of copy and pasting.

 

[duramaximizer]

Okay... that's fine. But I know people that are just copy and pasting. Saying I like this from this tune and that from this tune and oh, fueling from this tune. etc etc and just copy and paste and call it their own tune.

 

[GMC_2002_Dmax]

This is my opinion,

If you are in the business of tuning for fun or for money and you are e-mailing tunes and do not have a written, signed non-disclosure and do-not-share policy then it will be just like NAPSTER except with tune files and not songs.

You are essentially placing your work in a public domain, you lost any rights to your work once posted publicly.

More often then not people's ego's will get the best of them, they will argue over who's tune it is, where is came from, etc.

For many reasons, I lock all of my tunes into ecm's and always have.

It is my work, my "secrets" if you want to call it that, so I go to great lengths to protect it.

I know for a fact that my tuning has been logged to death and many of my previous customers have put on a tuning hat........it's a free country.

You do what you want with your tune, if the person you got it from didn't ask you to not disclose it then it's freeware.

JMHO.

:hug:

 

[RENODMAX]

And in all reality to really take anything to the next level its got to be dyno tuned. There isnt a tune you can just fire someone (in most cases) that makes their truck run at peak performance. Almost always takes tweaking.

 

[GMC_2002_Dmax]

And in all reality to really take anything to the next level its got to be dyno tuned. There isnt a tune you can just fire someone (in most cases) that makes their truck run at peak performance. Almost always takes tweaking.

Sometimes dyno tuning results in a poorly running street tune, altering fuel and timing to get the best number is fine, but it can make a tune a dyno tune only..........I only go to the dyno if I want to know how much power I am making after it has been track tuned or street tunes, as a rule I like the 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile to determine how much power a tune makes, especially on a truck with an experienced driver, the consistency is there.

 

[RENODMAX]

Im just talking about making power in the desired RPM range, not highest number