Max Effort Tuning LB7 vs LLY

diesel53

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haha okay alittle off topic but you guys are funny.

SO an lb7's limiting factor in a max effort set up would be air.

An lly makes no more than an lb7 with the slightly larger turbo?
 

diesel53

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rods are all the same material from 01-05?

Not worried about that so much the way my trucks will be tuned and driven, but I know its possible.

So there are no significant power differences between the two motors max'd out?
 

mike diesel

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I think people are still scared from when efi live tuning was still in its infancy and it was common to see a 520 hp dmax throw rods...tuning has come a long way and I would be willing to bet just about anything that you will not see any 520-550 horse truck throwing rods now days. In all reality you just don't see it anymore. Now it seems trucks running high 11's are the ones bending/throwing rods.

I've made countless 12.0@113 passes at full weight 7000lbs in my truck which equates to 670 wheel horse and have probably 50 750+ horse dyno pulls on my stock engine lly. People don't give stock motors enough credit anymore.
 

diesel53

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I think people are still scared from when efi live tuning was still in its infancy and it was common to see a 520 hp dmax throw rods...tuning has come a long way and I would be willing to bet just about anything that you will not see any 520-550 horse truck throwing rods now days. In all reality you just don't see it anymore. Now it seems trucks running high 11's are the ones bending/throwing rods.

I've made countless 12.0@113 passes at full weight 7000lbs in my truck which equates to 670 wheel horse and have probably 50 750+ horse dyno pulls on my stock engine lly. People don't give stock motors enough credit anymore.

Thanks for the hope mike :angel: i will need it haha.

And I think you are right from what I have seen.
 

catman3126

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Yep been hanging out at 625 rear wheel for a long time 40k miles and still kicking just fine. stock HG's and bolts too. but thats all going to change now.
 

diesel53

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i bought an lly cheap and Im debating which to dedicate all the power making mods too, more of a fun truck. So ill have a play truck and the other will be a daily driver, likely for my girlfriend.
 

Burn Down

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i bought an lly cheap and Im debating which to dedicate all the power making mods too, more of a fun truck. So ill have a play truck and the other will be a daily driver, likely for my girlfriend.

Okay I got ya. I think it comes down to which one you like more. They both share a lot parts/tuning. I would give the LB7 the slightest of edge in the power department due to the before mentioned Injector differences...
 

diesel53

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Okay I got ya. I think it comes down to which one you like more. They both share a lot parts/tuning. I would give the LB7 the slightest of edge in the power department due to the before mentioned Injector differences...

The only part that confuses me is that air seems to be the limiting factor. So does the lly with the slightly larger vvt flow more air? If so I think there is more power potential.

Im kind of leaning towards the lly for a race truck since mpg sucks compared to my lb7. And i would be less worried about blowing up the lly.
 

hondarider552

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Ironically, the end result is the same between every year dmax.

30* timing 3000Us = 500-550rwhp depending on dyno. All the dmax turbines are the same size, LB7 is just smallest inducer with biggest injectors but lower rail pressure.
 

diesel53

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Ironically, the end result is the same between every year dmax.

30* timing 3000Us = 500-550rwhp depending on dyno. All the dmax turbines are the same size, LB7 is just smallest inducer with biggest injectors but lower rail pressure.

That helps, still weird that less air on an lb7 makes the same power. thanks Brian.