LED headlights??

Hot COCOAL

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Im not ARGUING with you dude.
just perspective
The differance, you are "scientifically" pointing out between the non hid projector and hid projector are probably barely noticable to the human eye bro, and if you read into it a little farther the company i buy my hid's from "claim" to address the "arc" position so each bulb has the arc in an ideal position for the application, that is if you believe everything you read.
I know form this forum you know what your talking about. Again im not arguing with you, i actually agree with what you are saying.
However i dont believe a person has to go to the lenghts you have, to achieve better light output from the front of our trucks
Thats all.
 

Cornell

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The way I see it you should either:

A) leave your headlights and bulbs alone

B) use an OEM headlight and do a proper retrofit with an actual HID projector.

Sure you can have a higher lumen bulb in a crappy housing, its still going to scatter the light horribly and unevenly. How does that help at all?


The lengths Ben and myself went to to achieve this weren't that great. It took me and hour, a set of Denali headlights, the 40 dollar adapter plates (I bought from the prototype run) a set of H1 bulbs, and 120 bucks for the mini morimoto projectors. I already had my relay harness installed.

To me its worth it to see at night and see well with the amount of deer around here. Throwing hid bulbs in a stock housing is a cop-out and I shake my head everytime I see them.

And there is a huge difference between a hid projector and a halogen projector. You will have horrible hot spots because an hid bulb needs to be focused differently.
 
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duratothemax

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MadMaxx61

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ALL of them do.

There is no one that sells a true HID bi-xenon projector headlight assembly for our trucks. You have to buy the kit and mod the headlights yourself.

http://www.jrrod2004.com/silverado/hidretrofit.html

^ that is a good article

edit: and this one too. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?39070-About-to-retrofit-a-2003-Silverado

Humm sounds like someone that knows his shit should be making them and selling them. I don't know who could do that.

Ya so Ben when you going to be selling finished sets?
 

Duramax5

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Well call me a dumba$$ if yall want for having cheap Chinese hids in my non projector housings. But I love how they look n I have never been flashed unless I have the hi beams on. :thumb:
 

duratothemax

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Well call me a dumba$$ if yall want for having cheap Chinese hids in my non projector housings. But I love how they look n I have never been flashed unless I have the hi beams on. :thumb:

Im glad the scattered flat lighting that a stock housing produces is working great for you. :thumb:

(dont try to argue "oh its focused well" or "its not scattered", it is. Plain and simple. And you wouldnt know it, unless you looked at my HID headlights side-by-side with yours, then you'd realize how crappy your light really is)

your eyes/brain are being fooled into thinking you're "seeing better" because your near-field vision is being blasted with all that unfocused scattered light with its nasty hot spots. You arent actually seeing down the road better, its an optical illusion. Trust me.

I know everyone thinks im full of shit, and thats ok, I really dont care. I just wish you could do an A/B side-by-side comparison between real bi-xenon projectors and your average $30 DDM kit stuffed into a stock housing, and maybe then people would believe me.
 

duratothemax

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For the years I did what everyone else did. (plug-and-play HID kit in stock housing) I thought the lights were badass. I thought I could see everything, and I swore up and down how much "better" the headlights were.

But after driving with my retrofitted bi-xenon projectors for a year and getting used to the light they output and they way they illuminate the road and sides of the road, now when I get into friends trucks that have plug-and-play kits in stock housings, I realize how awful it (stock housings) is.
 

Duramax5

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I never said mine were better,lmao! But it pleases me knowing u spent 20minutes typing up a comment trying to prove something to me I never argued. I simply said I was happy with mine. :thumb: let the pissing contest continue...
 

Combine Pilot

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Just thought I'd put these up for a reference. It's not a Dmax but I used the Morimoto mini's on this retrofit. This retrofit took longer than what Cornell said but I had to get new lenses made for my headlight housings and extend some wires as the harness for the projectors is not made for a large truck.

Original headlight
pete1.jpg


After the retrofit
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Another after shot
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The True HID cutoff
pete4.jpg


I am guilty of running plug and play kits in my truck but as soon as I have the time and money I will be getting some Morimotos for my Dmax.
 
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Chevy1925

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So would these morimoto minis fit in an 01-02 headlight? they look quite large to fit there
 

Combine Pilot

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So would these morimoto minis fit in an 01-02 headlight? they look quite large to fit there

I think they would fit in. You would have to use a small shroud like the Mini Gatling Gun to fit in there. I used a large shroud to take up space in the big housing on our Peterbilt. I have a set of the Mini Gatling Gun but they were way too small in those housings.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=30
 

Chevy1925

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I think they would fit in. You would have to use a small shroud like the Mini Gatling Gun to fit in there. I used a large shroud to take up space in the big housing on our Peterbilt. I have a set of the Mini Gatling Gun but they were way too small in those housings.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=30

ah i must have been looking at the wrong ones

what exactly do you cut out? how do you seal them up? i know im asking 50 questions but just wanna be sure i do it right when i order this stuff