Look at the big picture. If they are using the same security software as Apple or Video games I doubt it's gonna happen. Look at how many nerds are into hacking that type of crap. Only way I see it happening is foolers of some sort.
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We will start bets, 30:1 if it's cracked in sept and the odds drop 25:1 in October lol
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they're monsters on the street or strip, 2.1s 0-60mph is just insane the dodge demon is 2.3 stock form of course.
If Russia can hack our elections or (claimed to have) I am sure someone will crack the ecm in the truck...
I've seen a lot of videos of them running away from mustangs!
I wonder how long it will be til they are banned without a cage
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there is alot of money left on the table for tuning these trucks as well as others if Dodge and Ford follow suit. the tuning will cost you more than it does now but i can bet people are putting some cost into R&D to be able to tune this ECM. too many brains out there that will let this beat them 
This was just posted over at DP. I realize it's DmaxTuner and Banks, but the information they are seeing might be helpful:
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lol that's the link I posted first that started this whole thread
I remember reading awhile back on here someone mentioning the idea of a hybrid diesel/electric setup
In theory that would be one gnarly ride:thumb:
It's more than an idea. Big name OEMs have been testing for years.
I want a nuclear powered truck. All the tq of a steam engine would be sweet.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a tune Cost $1500+
A shop here in town tunes and builds up exotic cars and his GTR tunes cost $1500+
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A shop here in town tunes and builds up exotic cars and his GTR tunes cost $1500+
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GMC_2002_Dmax
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Just Google SHA encryption.
It was explained to me that each segment of the code ( LML Have 9 segments as an example ) is locked down individually, so each and every section of the code is locked up and them the whole ecm is locked with a SHA encryption............NSA type stuff.
The boot pin is also protected with a 64 bit encryption/password and the whole thing requires a digital signature to allow it to accept the flash.
It was locked down due to hacking over the air updates, its rumored GM is going to over the air updates via the built in WIFI, so anything can be updated easily and without cost to GM with a dealer visit.
The rumor is that even if you get the ecm code, its encrypted in the flash and the ecm decrypts it in the fly !!!!
This is what is being thrown around by those who have been trying to get into it, some have spent enormous time and resources and have not been successful.
It was explained to me that each segment of the code ( LML Have 9 segments as an example ) is locked down individually, so each and every section of the code is locked up and them the whole ecm is locked with a SHA encryption............NSA type stuff.
The boot pin is also protected with a 64 bit encryption/password and the whole thing requires a digital signature to allow it to accept the flash.
It was locked down due to hacking over the air updates, its rumored GM is going to over the air updates via the built in WIFI, so anything can be updated easily and without cost to GM with a dealer visit.
The rumor is that even if you get the ecm code, its encrypted in the flash and the ecm decrypts it in the fly !!!!
This is what is being thrown around by those who have been trying to get into it, some have spent enormous time and resources and have not been successful.
So the moral of the story is that if you want to tune a Duramax, get a LML or earlier because L5P ain't happening?
Just Google SHA encryption.
It was explained to me that each segment of the code ( LML Have 9 segments as an example ) is locked down individually, so each and every section of the code is locked up and them the whole ecm is locked with a SHA encryption............NSA type stuff.
The boot pin is also protected with a 64 bit encryption/password and the whole thing requires a digital signature to allow it to accept the flash.
It was locked down due to hacking over the air updates, its rumored GM is going to over the air updates via the built in WIFI, so anything can be updated easily and without cost to GM with a dealer visit.
The rumor is that even if you get the ecm code, its encrypted in the flash and the ecm decrypts it in the fly !!!!
This is what is being thrown around by those who have been trying to get into it, some have spent enormous time and resources and have not been successful.
There is always a thread of hope!
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pcwo...sing-sha1-it-s-now-completely-unsafe.amp.html
I've come to the conclusion that I would just buy a '16 and be happy lol
I think at this point, if you want a L5P, assume it will be stock tune for a while, if not forever. There is always the option of going to an aftermarket ECU, but that will lose some integration with the rest of the truck.
If there is enough demand (number of people who would pay a lot for a tune), someone will break the stock ECU or setup an aftermarket ECU to work nicely with the rest of the truck. But until there are a ton of L5P's on the road, we might not see much available.
It looks like car ECUs are now using something like Secure Boot on PCs. If so, breaking it might be impossible, but there are always ways around it. The XBox 360 used the same kind of crypto, and people mod those all the time. It is just harder to do, and will probably require taking your ECU apart (or sending it off).
If there is enough demand (number of people who would pay a lot for a tune), someone will break the stock ECU or setup an aftermarket ECU to work nicely with the rest of the truck. But until there are a ton of L5P's on the road, we might not see much available.
It looks like car ECUs are now using something like Secure Boot on PCs. If so, breaking it might be impossible, but there are always ways around it. The XBox 360 used the same kind of crypto, and people mod those all the time. It is just harder to do, and will probably require taking your ECU apart (or sending it off).