I just started reading all this, and honestly from a 3rd party that doesn't know any of you......I don't see why it had to be taken to another forum, and from my opinion, it was def. a form of "HA HA...look guys, he's making stupid claims". Even if you didn't mean it that way, it was DEF. typed that way. But then again, I noticed most of them were Dodge guys....which I'm not bashing Dodge, but I went to the Cummins forum to learn some stuff and basically got flipped out on for every post I made...and then got called a piece of crap for driving a Chevy. Why does everyone have to argue so much????