Allison 5sp: Head scrathcer of the day

[Mike L.]

It was from an ALTO kit I bought from SUNCOAST in 2011.

Give me a call.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

Give me a call.

I will tommorrow.

 

[Mike L.]

I will tommorrow.

You should have done it before you called George. I talked to him about your trans today.

 

[48548]

You should have done it before you called George. I talked to him about your trans today.

Note to self call Mike L before anyone else!!!!

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[Evan@InglewoodTrans]

Note to self call Mike L before anyone else!!!!

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Mike is the man but calling George at Suncoast is just fine too

 

[Mike L.]

Mike is the man but calling George at Suncoast is just fine too

I wanted to make a suggestion.

 

[Evan@InglewoodTrans]

I wanted to make a suggestion.

It was a good suggestion too

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

You should have done it before you called George. I talked to him about your trans today.

I didn't see this until after I had called him. They're in Florida and I can normally get parts from them in a day or 2 for ground shipping costs. I called to order a RAYBESTOS C2 pack and they said they were out and wanted to sell me another ALTO pack. I told them I didn't want to go through that again and they transferred me back to George to run it by him. Just trying to get this thing back on the road as quick as possible since it's my only ride.

 

[juddski88]

The altos would work fine for you without the wave plate

 

[Mike L.]

The altos would work fine for you without the wave plate

Not always.

 

[duratothemax]

Mike wins the bet. Tore it out today and found a nice small tear in the C4 apply piston. One thing I noticed was both the C3 and C4 lip seals of the apply pistons are rock hard. You can't hardly push them down to compress them. I wouldn't expect to see rubber this hard on a 3 year old apply piston. And then there was the unexpected damage to find, my C2 clutches are FRIED! The colonel couldn't make chicken as crispy as my C2's are. A couple of them don't even have friction material left. I did not expect to see that with an ALTO pack with 7 frictions and a wave plate. I'm only pushing about 400 to the wheels to. And it was shifting great on the 3-4 just yeaterday.

Did you measure C2 clearance before you took it apart? Could the wave plate have flattened out or something like that?

 

[Evan@InglewoodTrans]

Did you measure C2 clearance before you took it apart? Could the wave plate have flattened out or something like that?

I've seen a wave plate that was completely flattened out with well over .100 clearance in c2. I'm not sure how long it was like that but the clutches still looked decent.

 

[Mike L.]

I came out with the wave plate in '04 to help save the C2 hub from twisting the splines due to bad tuning. Guys were cutting back defuel to get a firm shift back then.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

Did you measure C2 clearance before you took it apart? Could the wave plate have flattened out or something like that?

I had close to .250 clearance when I opened the C2's, they were FRIED!A couple were down to the metal, no friction left. The pack was right at .080 when it went togetehr with no wave plate but a thin steel in it's place. I took the thin steel out and put the wave plate back in. The wave plate actually still had some left in it, but not much.

And I ran it for the 1st 25K miles with 7 altos and 7 stock steels and was not happy with how it shifted. They still look now as I have them out in the shop. I bought the new pack with a wave trying to smooth out my 3-4 shift some over the previous 7 altos with no wave plate.

 

[edw9043]

06 lbz same issue

any ideas on my 06 lbz. it down shifts so hard from 2nd to 1st it'll throw out of your seat