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Reminds me of this lol redneck towing Service
 

arneson

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i dont like doing that especially on a tag trailer.... toooooo easy to "wag the dog" like that due to the trailer being too ass heavy

Depends on the length of trailer and where axles are placed. We run our skidsteers backwards all the time, depending on whats in front of trailer. When we have an extra bucket or backhoe bucket, turn the cat around facing rear, tongue weight is key tho. There id a happy number you need. You have to know what you are doin. Scaling it for next haul would be a great idea.
 

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talking about your rear axle on the truck. at best you got is maybe 7,000lb worth of rims and tires on the truck...
01-06 2500HD has
11,000lb axle
6000lb springs

rims and tires are week link :poke:


who makes 7500lb trailer axles now a days?

I think GM calls the springs somewhere around 2400 or 2600 per side on the 3/4tons. The 1 tons are 3300lbs per side I believe. I'm considering switching to 1 ton springs on my 3/4ton. Even with airbags my factory springs are shot.

Custom ordered from heartland trailer it can haul a dump truck if I wanted
Your axles are very likely 7,000lb axles. So together you're allowed 14k on the axles plus some tongue weight but you have to subtract the weight of the trailer to figure out what you can haul. It better be an awfully small dump truck to legally be on a 14k trailer figuring the trailer is better then 3k empty.
 

malibu795

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I think GM calls the springs somewhere around 2400 or 2600 per side on the 3/4tons. The 1 tons are 3300lbs per side I believe. I'm considering switching to 1 ton springs on my 3/4ton. Even with airbags my factory springs are shot.

6000lb springs on the rear axle for the 2500HD GMT800 trucks 5+1 (5 main and overload) standard 2 stage
7000lb for srw 3500 usually has 5+1 that the 2500 have with a 1 leaf helper 3 stage spring
7-10,000lb on DRW p/u and C&C 3500 trucks 3 stage spring with 5+1 with any where from 1-3 spring 3rd stage
these doesnt take acount for the 3rd stage factory spring.. i know for fact that 8,000lb pin weight does not put my dually on the bump stops;)
http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_Springs_s/1817.htm
 

Mark13

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6000lb springs on the rear axle for the 2500HD GMT800 trucks 5+1 (5 main and overload) standard 2 stage
7000lb for srw 3500 usually has 5+1 that the 2500 have with a 1 leaf helper 3 stage spring
7-10,000lb on DRW p/u and C&C 3500 trucks 3 stage spring with 5+1 with any where from 1-3 spring 3rd stage
these doesnt take acount for the 3rd stage factory spring.. i know for fact that 8,000lb pin weight does not put my dually on the bump stops;)
http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_Springs_s/1817.htm


I do know that 8k pin weight (plus the additional 5-600 for my toolbox and 200-1200lb for my 100 gallon fuel tank) put my 3/4ton even with the air bags pretty close to the bump stops lol.

Once I figure out what leaf spring setup I want from a drw truck I'm swapping those in to replace my worn out leaf springs.

Edit, does your truck have overloads on top of the leaf pack that touch a set of of pads placed on the frame when loaded or is that just a Ford thing and GM just keeps adding more springs to the original pack with the main overload on the bottom?
 

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Edit, does your truck have overloads on top of the leaf pack that touch a set of of pads placed on the frame when loaded or is that just a Ford thing and GM just keeps adding more springs to the original pack with the main overload on the bottom?

Mine has those upper overloads
 

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I think GM calls the springs somewhere around 2400 or 2600 per side on the 3/4tons. The 1 tons are 3300lbs per side I believe. I'm considering switching to 1 ton springs on my 3/4ton. Even with airbags my factory springs are shot.


Your axles are very likely 7,000lb axles. So together you're allowed 14k on the axles plus some tongue weight but you have to subtract the weight of the trailer to figure out what you can haul. It better be an awfully small dump truck to legally be on a 14k trailer figuring the trailer is better then 3k empty.
Prolly heaviest. Load I've ever hauled
 

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I would like to see the truck on level ground... With your truck at the bottom of a hill and the load shoving down its gonna add A LOT of weight to the pin.

Personally I haul with trucks back on but I'm a fat back truck so it handles the sway that can happen. That is NoT heavy enough load for your truck to squat that much.
 

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I would like to see the truck on level ground... With your truck at the bottom of a hill and the load shoving down its gonna add A LOT of weight to the pin.

Personally I haul with trucks back on but I'm a fat back truck so it handles the sway that can happen. That is NoT heavy enough load for your truck to squat that much.

I thought the same thing it sagged a lot on level ground I just think I didn't have it loaded but my shocks suck aswell rancho 9000 adj are brand new but just suck imo
 

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Edit, does your truck have overloads on top of the leaf pack that touch a set of of pads placed on the frame when loaded or is that just a Ford thing and GM just keeps adding more springs to the original pack with the main overload on the bottom?
this is how my DRW is setup..
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Mark13

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Thanks for the pic Adam. I may have to go a similar route with my pickup when I swap springs. Hardest part will probably be explaining to the dealer what all I want and that I don't want the factory parts that came on my truck.
 

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Will a drw spring setup fit a srw? Or can I just add the overload spring

there are interchangable... i cannt remember if the 2500 frames already have the holes for the spring perches for the extra springs or not.. mine are bolt in. if they did it would be a rather simple weekend swap

i have been quoated 100.00 a spring at a junk yard
 

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I do know that 8k pin weight (plus the additional 5-600 for my toolbox and 200-1200lb for my 100 gallon fuel tank) put my 3/4ton even with the air bags pretty close to the bump stops lol.

Once I figure out what leaf spring setup I want from a drw truck I'm swapping those in to replace my worn out leaf springs.

Edit, does your truck have overloads on top of the leaf pack that touch a set of of pads placed on the frame when loaded or is that just a Ford thing and GM just keeps adding more springs to the original pack with the main overload on the bottom?

What bags you running? I haul the same in my bed, and with 35lbs of air the sits level. I hauled my 32 ft camper (not sure of the exact tongue weight, but it leveled my 05' out (3" drop) and it had 8 leafs and one overload. Iput 80lbs in the bags on this truck (no weight distribution hooked up) and the truck didnt even drop and inch.
 

Mark13

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What bags you running? I haul the same in my bed, and with 35lbs of air the sits level. I hauled my 32 ft camper (not sure of the exact tongue weight, but it leveled my 05' out (3" drop) and it had 8 leafs and one overload. Iput 80lbs in the bags on this truck (no weight distribution hooked up) and the truck didnt even drop and inch.

I've got the 5k Firestone Ride Rite bags. Takes about 10psi to make the truck sit level (truck sits on a 4" lift with the front decranked, with 0psi in the bags the truck sits lower in the rear). With just my trailer hooked up and nothing on it the bags will read about 32-35psi. Pretty much any load on the trailer will require 60psi in the bags to keep the truck some what level. If I fill them to 60-70psi and then load 28 big squares the gauge will read 100-130psi depending on how heavy the bales are. The truck will also be squatting like it has no bags and is relying on the factory 3/4ton leaf springs. The springs will be bent backwards over the axle and the bags are nearly flat even with 130psi in them.