GM files for bankruptcy

[mmangels22]

Maybe, but GM and Chrysler's small cars did not sell. They sold what people would buy from them. Pull the sales figures for GM. (they are on the web) 1/2 of all sales were trucks! It isn't that they didn't or don't offer the small cars, the US buyer simply has not bought them. No Government action is going to fix that.

Perhaps the biggest thing GM lacks is youth. Talk to your son or daughter. What car do they want. Is it made in the US?

I agree. That is what I am trying to say. Bigger vehicles are what has driven GM for a long time now it has come back to bite them in the butt.

 

[mmangels22]

Wrong, GM's vehicles are good sellers, especially the new malibu, and the 06+ revision of the Impala, GM doesent have a problem at all selling vehicles nobody wants, the stupid American public cant get over the notion that American quality today in 2009 is far superior than Jap quality. GM has been marketing, little shit box economy cars for years remember the metro? How is that any different than the Yaris or a Scion? Its not. GM sold what people wanted, they turned a profit despite the odds and ridiculous union demands. Gas prices go up and GM got hurt bad, and it has nothing to do with them not making vehicles people wanted, rest assured they do as they always have.

The reason they hurt has to do with miniscule profit ratings, in the competitive passenger car market, they had/have the truck market locked down, they could afford to charge more, they made money on trucks and SUV's because they had and still have absolutely no competition. They cant make money selling cars period. Not aslong as Toyota, Nissian, and whatever other jap brands there are selling similar cars for the same price, with half the over head.

I beleive I've put it in a way that even a democrat can understand. GM has always been ahead of the curve or at least with the pack. If it wasnt for there strong emphasis on trucks and SUV's they wouldnt of lasted aslong as they have. But to claim they have there heads in there asses and cant make a vehicle people want is just plain stupid.

you just agreed with me dude

 

[z79outlaw]

you just agreed with me dude

Dont flatter yourself I dont think we've ever agreed on anything, you said GM doesnt market vehicles people want, when they cleary do. My point is GM cant make a profit in the car market when the unions are cutting there throats. They dont turn profit from small cars.

 

[ripmf666]

Dont flatter yourself I dont think we've ever agreed on anything, you said GM doesnt market vehicles people want, when they cleary do. My point is GM cant make a profit in the car market when the unions are cutting there throats. They dont turn profit from small cars.

The union is not cutting there throats, we voted on the new contact last week and they did not ask for a pay cut,all the asked for a to stop cola raises for now which is not that big of a gain on the check and made it were we have to use all are vacation time or loose it, before if I had 8 or 120 hrs left over because they could not let me have the time off no one to replace you and when you lower on the ladder you loose out so you got the vacation paid to you at the middle on Jan the next year and new vacation time added on for that new year.I have the book that Gm came up with the new plans they wanted in front of me, if they wanted a pay cut they would off asked for it they know they would of got it in a heartbeat.We make the same if not less in pay by the hr then the non union plants,The killer is Gm has had more employees then dodge and ford together to pay for that are retired.