fuel sump/pickup questions

[solidrunner]

I installed a FASS 150 Titanium and had the 1/4 tank issue pulling into the gas station, which is unacceptable. After only putting 18 gallons in, I was passed. Debating between a sump and a Kennedy/PPE style pickup. My truck is lowered, so the idea of a sump has me worried. I'm also planning on running the FASS return to the bottom of the tank through a draw straw or something similar. Seems like a constant flow of fuel through the filler neck isn't the best idea.

What are the opinions on the Kennedy or PPE style pickup? I've searched for the last couple of hours and haven't come up with a concise answer. Seems like all the treads derail at some point. I'd really rather not spend the cash on a sump if I don't need it, but if its the best option, I'll pull the trigger.

 

[custom8726]

I installed a FASS 150 Titanium and had the 1/4 tank issue pulling into the gas station, which is unacceptable. After only putting 18 gallons in, I was passed. Debating between a sump and a Kennedy/PPE style pickup. My truck is lowered, so the idea of a sump has me worried. I'm also planning on running the FASS return to the bottom of the tank through a draw straw or something similar. Seems like a constant flow of fuel through the filler neck isn't the best idea.

What are the opinions on the Kennedy or PPE style pickup? I've searched for the last couple of hours and haven't come up with a concise answer. Seems like all the treads derail at some point. I'd really rather not spend the cash on a sump if I don't need it, but if its the best option, I'll pull the trigger.

Never used a sump, But I have had good luck using the Draw straw style pick-ups in the past. I cut the straw down so its 1/4-1/2" from the bottom of the tank (When near Empty) then make a few notches in the bottom of the straw pickup in the unlikely case it bottomed out, it would still draw fuel in from the sides… Seems sumps are becoming more popular here lately though and theres no shortage of people posting good reviews on them :thumb:

 

[bml2200]

I wouldn't run the return to the bottom of the tank if you are also going to be using a sump. You run the risk of sucking in the warm fuel that just got returned.

 

[solidrunner]

I'm not going to run the return right into the sump. I bought a Beans sump from another member on here this morning. I'll probably use the stock suction line for the return. Is just seems that a constant waterfall of fuel out of the filler neck is kind of counter productive, just introducing a bunch of air.

 

[jliddle]

This option is out there as well.. http://ktperformance.net/i-21836292...k-bottom-sump-kit-with-integrated-return.html

 

[solidrunner]

I saw that one a couple days ago. Looks pretty nice, bit it seems like you would still have the water fall effect. From the demonstrations I've watched, the 150 returns a ton of fuel.

 

[Hot COCOAL]

I guess you're driving on roads built by God himself and was paved by angels, cuz you're not worried about the air bubbles created by fuel slosh from corners and stop and go and the bumps and vibrations from the road...

Basically, you're thinking too damn much
Put a lift pump on and plumb it like the geniuses who design the thing intended

Further note, wherever you're returning fuel, its going to be full of air if not just diesel foam...if you think about it, the fuel has time to release that trapped air on its way down the filler neck...

So, IMO, It seems like the filler neck still is the best spot to return fuel

 

[solidrunner]

I'm sure I'm over thinking it, but I figured the more air I can keep out the better. And the roads around here are horrible. The main thing is eliminating the 1/4 tank issue. I put the lift pump on with a little less than 1/4 tank and the truck died pulling into the gas station, about 6 miles away. Hopefully the Beans sump I bought will fix this.

 

[moparkxracer]

Dual sumps on mine, no more issues with 1/4 tank. Agree with hot cocoal

 

[DixonM]

Um air will rise to the top, and the pick up is at the bottom problem solved.

 

[CentolaCCSB]

Idk something just doesnt sit right with me drilling a hole into your fuel tank.
Sounds like a whole lot of headaches.. Just me but maybe im missing something feel free to enlighten me

 

[solidrunner]

I thought the same thing about drilling a hole in my perfectly good fuel tank, then I watched the Beans video. I have no worries now. The fuel line is another story, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

 

[A. Stock Lbz]

I've had sumps on 3 of my trucks so far. My lly was lowered 3in in the back and the torsion bar bolts out and I never worried about hitting or scraping. No fuel leaks and easy install, I will put them on every truck I own.

 

[Chevy1925]

I've had the PPE pick up in my truck for 6 years now and have ran my truck down where I've put 34.5 gallons in the truck to fill up a few times. Absolutely no 1/4 tank issues. I travel too far with the truck to have to deal with that.

 

[solidrunner]

Put the Beans sump in today. Nice easy install, no leaks. I ran the return line to the factory feed line so the fuel returns to the cup. The 1/4 tank issue is no lie. I used the FASS to pump the fuel out and right as the gauge hit 1/4 it started to suck air and then lost its prime.