Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brock Lesnar

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brock Lesnar

  • Fedor Emelianenko

    Votes: 19 41.3%
  • Brock Lesnar

    Votes: 27 58.7%

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03maxpower

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he is not cocky though he is confident the difference is he can back it up and he is. frank mir is cocky the only thing he backed up was his head as brock was beating his face.
 

paint94979

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Just read an interesting article on Yahoo sports. Couture figures it would be extremely difficult for Fedor to counter against Brock's strength and wrestling ability.

Have you seen all of Fedors fights? almost ALL of his opponents were substantially larger and stronger than him...
 

paint94979

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I've seen them. He used to be impressive, now he beats up the UFC's rejects.

UFC rejects? Pride was considered MUCH better competition until Dana White started waiving money in their faces in the past few years... there was a strong consensus that Pride was where the "real" fighters were. Pride is setup COMPLETELY different that the UFC well for the most part it used to be.

To elaborate on UFC rejects which is a very incorrect statement? Chuck Liddell, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Kevin Randleman, Fedor, Mark Coleman, Josh Barnett, Mirko Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Shogun Rua, Dan Henderson... I could go on all day... Most of these fighters are now the "in" fighters of the UFC. Where do you get your information from?
 
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bigbird

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UFC rejects? Pride was considered MUCH better competition until Dana White started waiving money in their faces in the past few years... there was a strong consensus that Pride was where the "real" fighters were. Pride is setup COMPLETELY different that the UFC well for the most part it used to be.

To elaborate on UFC rejects which is a very incorrect statement? Chuck Liddell, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Kevin Randleman, Fedor, Mark Coleman, Josh Barnett, Mirko Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Shogun Rua, Dan Henderson... I could go on all day... Most of these fighters are now the "in" fighters of the UFC. Where do you get your information from?

I was referring to his last 3-4 fights. Tim Sylvia, Arlovski, and Barnett are all washed up UFC rejects. Until Fedor beats a credible opponent it will be hard to claim he's the best.
 
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E.carter

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Would love to see Brock fight Lyoto Machida. Brock may have a hard time touching that karate freak. I have seen him fight many times and he rarly gets touched.
 

paint94979

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Would love to see Brock fight Lyoto Machida. Brock may have a hard time touching that karate freak. I have seen him fight many times and he rarly gets touched.

that is actually a really good point... everyone rules out the asian fighters those bastards are very good MMA fighters
 

bighawg

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I was referring to his last 3-4 fights. Tim Sylvia, Arlovski, and Barnett are all washed up UFC rejects. Until Fedor beats a credible opponent it will be hard to claim he's the best.

A credible opponent????????? :hmm:

What are you talking about?
:WTF2:

Takada, Babalu, Semmy Schilt, Heath Herring, Nogueira (twice), Fujita, Big Daddy Gary Goodrich, Mark Coleman(twice), Kevin Randleman, Mirko Filipovic Cro-Cop, Mark Hunt, Matt Lindland, Zulu, Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski, you don't consider some of the best fighters in the world a credible opponet?
 

bigbird

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A credible opponent????????? :hmm:

What are you talking about?
:WTF2:

Takada, Babalu, Semmy Schilt, Heath Herring, Nogueira (twice), Fujita, Big Daddy Gary Goodrich, Mark Coleman(twice), Kevin Randleman, Mirko Filipovic Cro-Cop, Mark Hunt, Matt Lindland, Zulu, Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski, you don't consider some of the best fighters in the world a credible opponet?

Guess i should have been more clear. Years ago he beat some quality opponents, LATELY all he does is beat up the UFC's rejects. You put Tim Sylvia on the list, Ray Mercer knocked him out in 1/3rd the time it took Fedor. Anyway on this one i think i'll side with Randy Couture and not all the Fedor pom pom wavers.
 

radvans

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All the pride guys came over to ufc and almost all of them got knocked out. Pride was good only because we hadn't tapped the youth of America. Now all the old school guys are dominated by the "new breed" of ground and pound. The pride guys were too one dimensional. If you can't fight like St. Pierre you won't be able to compete. That is the way the sport is going and he is showing its the recipe to get it done.

Brock looks like the Matt Hughes of old...decent stand up but take'em down and just throw punches and elbows...same as St. Pierre....and it works...very effectively.
 

03maxpower

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Guess i should have been more clear. Years ago he beat some quality opponents, LATELY all he does is beat up the UFC's rejects. You put Tim Sylvia on the list, Ray Mercer knocked him out in 1/3rd the time it took Fedor. Anyway on this one i think i'll side with Randy Couture and not all the Fedor pom pom wavers.

:rofl::rofl: i love it pom pom wavers its so true i could see there point if he was fighting like tank abbott or someone like that but brock has speed and agility with his size that spells a bad day for anyone
 

Iceman56

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I was referring to his last 3-4 fights. Tim Sylvia, Arlovski, and Barnett are all washed up UFC rejects. Until Fedor beats a credible opponent it will be hard to claim he's the best.

Barnett is not a washed up reject. You are misinformed. I believe he could beat anyone in the UFC right now except for maybe Brock or Valasquez. He has already beaten Nog and Randy and would work them both now.
 

mmangels22

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I would like to see a great fight, I think Brock Lesnar is just gonna kick the livin' crap out of Emelianko.

I would also LOVE to see a Machida vs Lesnar fight.
 

bighawg

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<center>Fedor Emelianenko</center>


<!--/PICTURE R--> Heavyweight

1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 NC)
It almost seems like ages ago that Emelianenko was facing criticism over his level of competition. Affliction’s “Trilogy” on Aug. 1 will mark Emelianenko’s third straight bout against a former UFC champion, as he takes on Josh Barnett in their long-awaited heavyweight clash.

2. Josh Barnett (24-5)
The Ts are crossed and the Is are dotted. Barnett will finally take on Fedor Emelianenko on Aug. 1 at Affliction “Trilogy” in yet another marquee heavyweight showdown for MMA in the coming months.

3. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
In just five fights, Lesnar now owns the full UFC heavyweight crown and sports stoppages over the likes of Frank Mir and Randy Couture. However, despite his overwhelming performance against Mir at UFC 100, Lesnar's post-fight pro-wrestling theatrics seem to have overshadowed his victory.

4. Frank Mir (12-4)
Mir was in his best shape in years for his rematch with Brock Lesnar at UFC 100. It wasn't enough, though, for him to duplicate his first-round submission win from February 2008, as Lesnar brutally pounded Mir out in the second stanza.

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1, 1 NC)
Whether it will wind up being the fight for which fans had long hoped remains to be seen, but two of the sport’s most enduring icons will square off at UFC 102 in August when Nogueira finally meets up with Randy Couture.

6. Randy Couture (16-9)
His bout with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is long overdue. Hopefully, when “The Natural” and “Minotauro” square off at UFC 102 in August, the clash of heavyweight legends will not prove past its expiration date.

7. Brett Rogers (10-0)
After his blistering 22-second knockout of Andrei Arlovski, Rogers was expected to be fast-tracked to a Strikeforce title shot against champion Alistair Overeem. Instead, the unbeaten prospect will continue honing his craft on Strikeforce's October offering against a yet-to-be-named opponent.

8. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
Despite having knocked off the likes of Fabricio Werdum, Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson in the recent past, those accomplishments now seem like distant memories for Arlovski. “The Pitbull” has been brutally smashed in his last two outings against Fedor Emelianenko and Brett Rogers, and conversation now centers on the fragile chin that has betrayed him again.

9. Shane Carwin (11-0)
Carwin will be back in action at UFC 104 on Oct. 24. If all goes according to plan, he'll find opposition in fellow unbeaten heavyweight prospect Cain Velasquez in a bout rich with risk and reward for both fighters.

10. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 NC)
In the first defense of his Strikeforce heavyweight title, Alistair Overeem will get a chance for revenge on Aug. 15. He will stake his mantle against UFC and Pride veteran Fabricio Werdum, who submitted the high-flying Dutchman back in May 2006.

Other contenders: Junior dos Santos, Aleksander Emelianenko, Jeff Monson, Ben Rothwell, Fabricio Werdum.
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Dave Mandel/Sherdog.com

<center>Fedor Emelianenko</center>


<!--/PICTURE R--> Heavyweight

1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 NC)
It almost seems like ages ago that Emelianenko was facing criticism over his level of competition. Affliction’s “Trilogy” on Aug. 1 will mark Emelianenko’s third straight bout against a former UFC champion, as he takes on Josh Barnett in their long-awaited heavyweight clash.

2. Josh Barnett (24-5)
The Ts are crossed and the Is are dotted. Barnett will finally take on Fedor Emelianenko on Aug. 1 at Affliction “Trilogy” in yet another marquee heavyweight showdown for MMA in the coming months.

3. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
In just five fights, Lesnar now owns the full UFC heavyweight crown and sports stoppages over the likes of Frank Mir and Randy Couture. However, despite his overwhelming performance against Mir at UFC 100, Lesnar's post-fight pro-wrestling theatrics seem to have overshadowed his victory.

4. Frank Mir (12-4)
Mir was in his best shape in years for his rematch with Brock Lesnar at UFC 100. It wasn't enough, though, for him to duplicate his first-round submission win from February 2008, as Lesnar brutally pounded Mir out in the second stanza.

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1, 1 NC)
Whether it will wind up being the fight for which fans had long hoped remains to be seen, but two of the sport’s most enduring icons will square off at UFC 102 in August when Nogueira finally meets up with Randy Couture.

6. Randy Couture (16-9)
His bout with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is long overdue. Hopefully, when “The Natural” and “Minotauro” square off at UFC 102 in August, the clash of heavyweight legends will not prove past its expiration date.

7. Brett Rogers (10-0)
After his blistering 22-second knockout of Andrei Arlovski, Rogers was expected to be fast-tracked to a Strikeforce title shot against champion Alistair Overeem. Instead, the unbeaten prospect will continue honing his craft on Strikeforce's October offering against a yet-to-be-named opponent.

8. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
Despite having knocked off the likes of Fabricio Werdum, Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson in the recent past, those accomplishments now seem like distant memories for Arlovski. “The Pitbull” has been brutally smashed in his last two outings against Fedor Emelianenko and Brett Rogers, and conversation now centers on the fragile chin that has betrayed him again.

9. Shane Carwin (11-0)
Carwin will be back in action at UFC 104 on Oct. 24. If all goes according to plan, he'll find opposition in fellow unbeaten heavyweight prospect Cain Velasquez in a bout rich with risk and reward for both fighters.

10. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 NC)
In the first defense of his Strikeforce heavyweight title, Alistair Overeem will get a chance for revenge on Aug. 15. He will stake his mantle against UFC and Pride veteran Fabricio Werdum, who submitted the high-flying Dutchman back in May 2006.

Other contenders: Junior dos Santos, Aleksander Emelianenko, Jeff Monson, Ben Rothwell, Fabricio Werdum.
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I only see one guy on that list that has easily defeated two of the top 5. And the 4th place guy was handed his ass by that guy...and I mean handed his ass. The #1 and #2 ranked guys couldn't handle the 4th & 5th place guys. Couture could wipe the floor with both the #1 & #2 guys...and if I remember correctly he got knocked the **** out by Mr. Lesnar. Lesnar is only ranked #3 because he has so few fights, and people are made because he flipped some people off, whatever. At this point, with these rankings, there is no one even close to Lesnars caliber...he could easily beat all of them. Ha...that list has Arlovsk at #8, what a joke.
 

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I only see one guy on that list that has easily defeated two of the top 5. And the 4th place guy was handed his ass by that guy...and I mean handed his ass. The #1 and #2 ranked guys couldn't handle the 4th & 5th place guys. Couture could wipe the floor with both the #1 & #2 guys...and if I remember correctly he got knocked the **** out by Mr. Lesnar. Lesnar is only ranked #3 because he has so few fights, and people are made because he flipped some people off, whatever. At this point, with these rankings, there is no one even close to Lesnars caliber...he could easily beat all of them. Ha...that list has Arlovsk at #8, what a joke.

LOL to say Lesnar is the best heavyweight in the world right now is RIDICULOUS!... what happens if Lesnar loses his next fight which most likely will not be against Fedor... Would you still be cheerleading for Lesnar when he drops to a measly 5-2 record...?

he has to season many more fights before he can be crowned best in the world.
 
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