Fabtech motorsports files bankrupcy

LBZ

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I'm not gonna say there aren't better kits out there, but I haven't had any problems with mine.

I wonder how the other suspension companies are doing.
 

Blueox03

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Have you even had a kit from Fabtech? Probably would be smart to have some actual experience with it before you bash it.

uhh...yeah I have hence my opinion there smart guy. had their idler/pitman arms that they recalled and their wear out in under 25K tie rods for my 2500HD too. I've owned a few junky chryslers too for comparison. You should follow your advice and have some actual knowledge of ones belongings before you run you mouth/fingers about someones experience....I see I'm not the only one who has the same opinion....
 

motohed

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i had fabtech coil springs on my sonoma (first truck) had to buy cst's springs cuz the fabtechs were so stiff i could have used them on a dump truck. friends have bad luck on their 1500. just looking at their " engineering" you can tell its half ass. especially when you have friends with racing exp that can point stuff out to you. ie stress points and where gussets should be.

im all for RCD and Cognito. RCD is time proven and Cognito is ultra inovative, and so farfrom what ive seen and heard great!
 

mmangels22

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uhh...yeah I have hence my opinion there smart guy. had their idler/pitman arms that they recalled and their wear out in under 25K tie rods for my 2500HD too. I've owned a few junky chryslers too for comparison. You should follow your advice and have some actual knowledge of ones belongings before you run you mouth/fingers about someones experience....I see I'm not the only one who has the same opinion....

Fabtech=chrysler IMO....pure crap....

This was your OP. Where does it show in any way your experiences with either FABTECH or CHRYSLER? All that was pointed out here was that you thought that both fabtech and chrysler are pure crap. Their pitman/idler arms were recalled on their previous kits I bought mine after that batch. How are you ruining HD tie rods in 25k? These things are more than double the strength of the OEM tie rods. Just like the cognito ones. If you had bad experiences with Fabtech then sorry but there are a lot more people that have been happy with the product than not
 

mmangels22

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i had fabtech coil springs on my sonoma (first truck) had to buy cst's springs cuz the fabtechs were so stiff i could have used them on a dump truck. friends have bad luck on their 1500. just looking at their " engineering" you can tell its half ass. especially when you have friends with racing exp that can point stuff out to you. ie stress points and where gussets should be.

im all for RCD and Cognito. RCD is time proven and Cognito is ultra inovative, and so farfrom what ive seen and heard great!

How can you tell their engineering is half ass? Where? Is the angle at which the CV is at too high? When you are putting big tires and a lift on a truck frame there is going to be added stress. What many if not all lift companies do out there is find ways to make it safe for people to drive. Fabtech is just as good as any kit out there. Unfortunately they have financial problems right now they are not closing business yet so we'll see what happens. But yeah RCD and cognito are great kits too, I would buy RCD cognito is a little too pricey for me.
 

kenny

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Bankruptcy does not indicate that a company has gone out of buisness. There are different levels though that indicate action that will be taken, but it's sole purpose is to help pull the buisness from debt.

On a side note, I been running my 6 inch Fabtech for 25,000 miles now with no problems yet.:D I did the geometry research on the kits when I was looking and actually the Fluff country wasn't that great (sorry had to do it):D. Just an FYI. It helps to know some people that build the stuff too, if you know what I mean.

Just like any company out there though, there are the once in a while bad batches or castings from the manufacturer. That is why they do recalls and provide great customer service, to remedy these mistakes and to make happy customers.
Have a great day, Thanks :)
 

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Fabtech=chrysler IMO....pure crap....

This was your OP. Where does it show in any way your experiences with either FABTECH or CHRYSLER? All that was pointed out here was that you thought that both fabtech and chrysler are pure crap. Their pitman/idler arms were recalled on their previous kits I bought mine after that batch. How are you ruining HD tie rods in 25k? These things are more than double the strength of the OEM tie rods. Just like the cognito ones. If you had bad experiences with Fabtech then sorry but there are a lot more people that have been happy with the product than not

I didn't ruin them, the joints wore out, it's been noted by others as well. I didn't say they bent, so learn to read.

http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11043

There's also a thread on the place and other forums about their tie rods wearing out.

BTW, how often does anyone do a write up on the basis of their opinion and post it with their option? Who are you to question anyone else's formulation of an opinion? Just because someone's opinion is not agreeable to yours does not make it wrong or unfounded, it makes it different than yours.
 

LBZ

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I got 40,000 miles out of my Cognito HEIM steering joints, I'm still running stock ball joints, I run someone elses center link braces and I am replacing my shocks with something else soon as I have a big dent in one of the shock tubes on the rear.

My point is that no one do everything kit is perfect. Sometimes you need to mix and match to get the best of everything-and that's just the way it is.
 

juddski88

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I got 40,000 miles out of my Cognito HEIM steering joints, I'm still running stock ball joints, I run someone elses center link braces and I am replacing my shocks with something else soon as I have a big dent in one of the shock tubes on the rear.

My point is that no one do everything kit is perfect. Sometimes you need to mix and match to get the best of everything-and that's just the way it is.

X2, my Tuff Country is not the run-of-the-mill 4" lift, i pretty much had to order the whole kit just to get the knuckles and frame/diff brackets. the rear springs are Deaver Custom 6" lift springs built to handle 1500 lbs of tongue weight, double what their advertised ones handle. the shocks are rancho 9000x's, cognito solid front sway bar with huge SS endlinks to run it the stock way instead of flipping it, braces, sleeves, dual steering stablizer. it all plays into longevity, but the meer fact that the TC lift knuckles suck the front tires in 2" over the FagTech kit is a huge plus.
 

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I've had numerous brands of lift kits over the years,and worked on plennty more on customers vehicles. They all had thier quirks. The best, longest lasting is stock hieght.
 

mmangels22

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I didn't ruin them, the joints wore out, it's been noted by others as well. I didn't say they bent, so learn to read.

http://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11043

There's also a thread on the place and other forums about their tie rods wearing out.

BTW, how often does anyone do a write up on the basis of their opinion and post it with their option? Who are you to question anyone else's formulation of an opinion? Just because someone's opinion is not agreeable to yours does not make it wrong or unfounded, it makes it different than yours.


So I ask you why you ruined HD tie rods and you told me the joints wore out. OK, well I mean were you running extreme size tires? What were the specs that made you come to the conclusion that these are a bad product. I know of plenty of people who have HD tie rods and no issues, just like myself. So you are in the minority when you have an issue with the HD tie rods, I have never known anyone to go through HD tie rods in 25k. I am just politely asking you, no need to get upset.:cool:
 

kenny

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I just don't see how the steering system has any part to do with the suspension system and related components. Regardless of what components you use, all lift kits dramatically change the geometry of the factory designed steering system and dramatically increase the stress and shorten life expectancy of these parts.;)
 
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kenny

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So your telling me that full lock to lock and bump to droop, the steering system maintains the same geometry? I'm not talking about just looking at the truck parked with the wheels aimed straight ahead and taking a tape measure to it. You get dramatic tie rod and joint wear from unsprung tire load. IE, toe setting, camber, caster, and weight of the preload from steer setting, even contact patch with the ground, or for simplicity, traction to the ground. I build this shit bud.
 

juddski88

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all that you just mentioned is dependant on tires and alignment, not lift kits necessarily. there is not much more unsprung weight with my lift kit. the knuckles are larger than stock but cast differently as to not "bulge" and they aren't much heavier, if at all, than stock. the knuckles I have place the tie rod ends almost flat, same with CV's unless i crank it, which i have a bit, and still have not had any worn items in 30k miles with this kit and setup. don't worry kenny, i am not attacking you, i am just stating the obvious form my point of view:hello:
 

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Fabtech=chrysler IMO....pure crap....

This was your OP. Where does it show in any way your experiences with either FABTECH or CHRYSLER? All that was pointed out here was that you thought that both fabtech and chrysler are pure crap. Their pitman/idler arms were recalled on their previous kits I bought mine after that batch. How are you ruining HD tie rods in 25k? These things are more than double the strength of the OEM tie rods. Just like the cognito ones. If you had bad experiences with Fabtech then sorry but there are a lot more people that have been happy with the product than not


Do you have any independent test data to back this claim up?