Evans waterless coolant
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I use it in the motorcycles - love it. I run 0psi. I had a buddy with a spaghetti mess of coolant lines under the carbs and a mystery leak that showed over 10psi - we went with Evans and 0psi and no more leak ever. My little KTM450exc is known for overheating, but it doesn't with the Evans.
I've thought about it many times for the truck, but the cost is a big hit at one time compared to street and dirtbikes.
I've thought about it many times for the truck, but the cost is a big hit at one time compared to street and dirtbikes.
From what I read it will make the engine run a littler warmer, then read a conflicting report that stated the opposite by Evans. Replacing all the hoses is a minimum requirement, you do need to use their flush prior to replacing the hoses.
Yup, I've done a lot of reading on their site as for what I need to do. I'm just curious if anyone here has thoughts or used it I may have not considered. Most that I see say it's dropped temp.
I had an aluminum pipe the same size as the lower radiator hose made with a removable plug (could use a valve and cap it) to drain mine when replacing the coolant about every 3 years. It'll keep me from getting an anti-freeze bath like when I pulled the lower radiator hose to replace it. Could use the same pipe in case you had to pull the radiator to drain it first with the expensive Evans for reuse.
Sorry off topic but since you brought it up...WHY THE HELL do the LBZs and such not have a removable plug to drain the coolant like the LB7s? I drain my coolant and am perfectly clean (including the floor) every time. I use a funnel at an angle to direct the coolant downwards into a 5 gallon bucket directly below. Simple clean and no big deal....
My thought and this is purely speculation but my guess is GM saw the opportunity to create more revenue by doing away with the drain plug and causing people to come into the service area and get their truck hooked to the flush cart...this is purely speculation though. But I will say it was really dumb of them to do that
Thanks Mike but my rad has a drain plug in her. Coolant drains are mess free lol. Now draining the block on the other hand is gunna make a mess
Why do you run 0 pressure in them? Just out of curiosity
oh jeez... Do you also believe all electronics are all programmed with an internal countdown timer in them too, so when the timer reaches zero it self destructs and requires you to buy a new one?
The real reason? Yeah, because it saved GM a little money when they re-designed the radiator for the LBZ's. But was it also some evil plot to force you to go to the dealer for a coolant flush? Of course not, come on.
When are people going to learn that GM dealers are INDIVIDUALLY OWNED AND OPERATED FRANCHISES. Do you know what that means? GM doesnt "own" or operate/run the dealers. GM doesnt make a dime on any service work performed by a dealer. In fact, a lot of the time they actually lose money, when the dealer is performing work under warranty.
It is not in GM's best interest to sit there and waste their time scheming up ideas to milk more money from the consumer AFTER the initial sale of the vehicle, but I know that one is going to be difficult for the skeptics to grasp.
Why GM figured it was worth saving money, is because they use Dex-Cool, which is good for 5 years, or 100k+ miles. They probably figured that, for the most part, the cooling system would only have to be drained once every 4-5 years. Pain in the ass, yeah, but I think everyone can survive a little coolant mess every couple years...
No I don't believe that ben. Like I said it was speculation as I don't know. I knew the dex cool was good for long intervals part but not the years. Also didn't know the dealership portion. Always good to learn something. But I will say I'll gladly take looking like a dummy from time to time to learn something far more knowledgeable. Appreciate you setting me straightoh jeez... Do you also believe all electronics are all programmed with an internal countdown timer in them too, so when the timer reaches zero it self destructs and requires you to buy a new one?
The real reason? Yeah, because it saved GM a little money when they re-designed the radiator for the LBZ's. But was it also some evil plot to force you to go to the dealer for a coolant flush? Of course not, come on.
When are people going to learn that GM dealers are INDIVIDUALLY OWNED AND OPERATED FRANCHISES. Do you know what that means? GM doesnt "own" or operate/run the dealers. GM doesnt make a dime on any service work performed by a dealer. In fact, a lot of the time they actually lose money, when the dealer is performing work under warranty.
It is not in GM's best interest to sit there and waste their time scheming up ideas to milk more money from the consumer AFTER the initial sale of the vehicle, but I know that one is going to be difficult for the skeptics to grasp.
Why GM figured it was worth saving money, is because they use Dex-Cool, which is good for 5 years, or 100k+ miles. They probably figured that, for the most part, the cooling system would only have to be drained once every 4-5 years. Pain in the ass, yeah, but I think everyone can survive a little coolant mess every couple years...
Mishimoto radiator.?
I spoke with an authorized installer for the Evans about 2 years ago, he would not install Evans if he did not replace all the hoses.
Couple items came to mind when I was looking.
Higher temp (recommended by Evans) thermostats like what Mishimoto sells.?
What type of cap for the de-gas tank and does any one manufacture it.?
The last, I know what the refractor is for and the amount of water allowed by Evans is less than 3%, what happens if you're over the 3% when you have completed the process, replace the coolant completely.?
I was going to swap it in when my truck was new. It is/was flammable and it sounds like its pretty thick cold/ cold weather. With the issues we have with water pumps I decided not to. Really the big thing with me and I'm sure with you if something happens and your out in BFE what are you going to when you cant get your very rare coolant? Wash it all and flush it out to put in normal coolant.
No, factory lb7 radiator. All lb7 and LLY (true LLY, not the 06s) trucks had drains in the radiator. One good thing about an lb7 lol.
No need to replace the hoses from what I've found unless they are swollen or soft (which means they are bad anyhow). I use a different de-gas tank than stock that uses a conventional cap on the tank which suits their needs of limiting air/moisture into the system. No idea on the higher temp thermostat but I wouldn't be changing them anyhow. I would have to see the difference for myself there. If you are above 5%, you need to drain the system, flush, and refill again with new coolant. That can get expensive.....
You can add water or coolant, it will get you home without hurting the cooling system but you would have to dump all 250-300 bucks worth of coolant down the drain. I'd just keep a gallon in the tool box like I do other fluids. It's no worse than loosing a hose wi h regular coolant, just more expensive.
The more I type, the more I feel like I'm talking myself out of it lol
I wouldn't use Evans. In '08 the Dmax streamliner Mormon Missile was running that stuff at Bonneville.....it was Mike Cook's shootout in October. On the return run the engine overheated and blew the coolant cap clean off. At almost 370 mph, Evans sprayed out, hit the hot turbine housing and caught fire. I was in the chase vehicle and saw what happened, it was nasty. The owner/driver was injured very badly and nearly died. And the car was real messed up. It took a lot of forceful talk with Evans for them to finally tell what's in their coolant, and it's combustible. As of the next year, the only coolant allowed at Bonneville is water. I guess if you use Evans and can make sure it'll always absolutely stay inside the system and never gets out, then maybe....... Personally I'd never use that stuff.
Sorry I didnt mean to come off as harsh as I did...it had been an early morning for me, and at that time I was still working, so I think I was getting a bit grumpy haha.
:But yeah, dealers are not owned by GM in any way. I dont know exactly how it works, im sure they pay some big (maybe its flat rate, maybe its percentage of sales?) fees each year for being a dealer of GM...but as far as piddly little service stuff/profits, nah GM never sees a dime of that.
Ben