Thought you guy/gals would enjoy some pics of Dmitri's New truck. We are building a new twin kit for it and a few other goodies...
Pics before we got started....
Pics before we got started....
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Dmitri Millards "Overkill"
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Can I ask why you guys chose to keep the rear shocks so much to the inside like that? Looks cool and all, but don't the wheels then have more than desired leverage over the suspension then?
really only comes in to play when cornering tim, when straight line racing the shock position from center will have little effect
My exact thought when I saw this pic a weeks ago. Looks like the setup on a tubbed drag car with a narrowed rear end, minus the narrowed rear end and tubs. I would have put the shocks much further out.
Who built the rear suspension?
I think it plays into straight line racing quite a bit with our trucks. all that torque transfers to leverage with our wide trackwidth and big tires. air pressure adjustments and shock dampening adjustments make a pretty big difference in how the truck launches. and that's with the shock in the stock location. now factor in how much harder the shock has to compensate when there is more leverage against it. it's a losing battle. our axles not only want to rotate on the axis of the pinion but also on the axis of the axle centerline. In order to keep everything rigid and controlled, I really think that the farther out the shock is from center, the more effective it is.
I agree, but looking at the pics the way those brackets attach to the axle, the wheel to frame rail clearance, and the framerails themselves, it doesn't look like they can be much furthur apart (maybe a couple inches). I'm assuming this was a setup for a narrowed 9" that they adapted to the 14 bolt.
In order to get them a significant distance furthur apart would require a LOT more fabrication and a completely different mounting setup. While it could have been designed better (from a physics standpoint), without a ton of extra modification, this looks to be worlds better than the factory suspension so maybe that's what they were going for (better, not the best). I know I've made many a compromise for one reason or another (sometimes it just boils down to time and money).
Regardless, looking forward to how it performs at the track. :thumb:
im sure there is an advantage to the shocks being farther out, but how much ? enough to make a differnece worth reconstructing the whole back half of the truck? with the increased room you would have to free up would you make room for bigger tires or move the shocks out ? in a class with limited tire size yes make the shock position ideal but if you can move the shocks in and increase tire size go that route. the drag cars i've worked on very rarely needed a different shock setting side to side in the rear, yet the fronts were almost never the same. this is all based off experience no theory or physics at all
Thanks for sharing the pics, those back side pics are way better than his or his
girlfriends :hug: Looks nice and tidy :thumb:
girlfriends :hug: Looks nice and tidy :thumb:
thats where link placement is most prominate. when the rear of the truck is at best 2500lbs, then maybe transfers back 3-4k total, your not dampening much and its only one hit going one direction which can be easily compensated. we are not going down a whooped out road at 120mph with changing axle movements from side to side. all the shocks are suppose to do is dampen suspension movement, not pinon change, not axle rotation, ect in a link setup. the links take care of that. if your doin that in a leaf spring setup, your bandaiding the problem