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My dad is a retired RCMP of 35 years service. One thing he has said is that the biggest reason people get shot or injured during an interaction with police is not the colour of their skin, the language they speak, or even what they're wearing, but how they conduct themselves during their interaction with the police.
Sketchy behaviour or how they answer simple questions often determine how the interaction goes and they are trained on how to read these signs. If the officer feels they are unpredictable, or are trying to hide something, often they will detain them and handcuff them for their own safety and the safety of the public or the individual themselves until they can grasp the situation and determine if there is a threat or possible illegal activity present.
When things go sideways he said most often it's because of their resistance or refusal to follow directions and it quickly escalates at this point where force may be required to varying degrees.
The biggest thing people need to remember is that they may not know anything about the individual unless they had prior contact with them. They don't know if they're wanted, schizophrenic, violent, depressed, suicidal, happy, easy going, have a violent history, passive, aggressive or what.
All they know is their current environment, reasons that prompted the interaction, and go into every situation hoping for the best but prepared for the worst following their training.
Not saying every officer is good at this, or that some don't power trip, are overly arrogant or aggressive, maybe even some are a bit scared, but to antagonize, question or disobey their directions is guaranteed to not improve the situation. Just follow directions to the letter, let them say their piece and if you're not happy after take it to a complaint or to court. I guarantee at that exact moment in time, flipping out or doing anything other than what they ask isn't going to help the situation or change their mind.
That said if there is a rash of abuse of power or misconduct, then it is the duty of the force or government to investigate and solve or quell the issue. Failure to do so will lead to shootings of police and more violence on both sides and nothing good will come of it.
My biggest issue with the recent shooting in St.Paul, like many others, is you don't see the whole incident and don't know the facts leading up to the shooting. To cast judgement without this knowledge is extremely premature and very irresponsible. I highly doubt that cop walked up to the car with a kid and woman in the car thinking I'm shooting this guy cause he's black. Did the cop make a mistake? Maybe. Did the guy do something threatening? Maybe. The only people alive that know is the cop and the woman. The rest of the world really should stfu and wait until it gets investigated.
Sketchy behaviour or how they answer simple questions often determine how the interaction goes and they are trained on how to read these signs. If the officer feels they are unpredictable, or are trying to hide something, often they will detain them and handcuff them for their own safety and the safety of the public or the individual themselves until they can grasp the situation and determine if there is a threat or possible illegal activity present.
When things go sideways he said most often it's because of their resistance or refusal to follow directions and it quickly escalates at this point where force may be required to varying degrees.
The biggest thing people need to remember is that they may not know anything about the individual unless they had prior contact with them. They don't know if they're wanted, schizophrenic, violent, depressed, suicidal, happy, easy going, have a violent history, passive, aggressive or what.
All they know is their current environment, reasons that prompted the interaction, and go into every situation hoping for the best but prepared for the worst following their training.
Not saying every officer is good at this, or that some don't power trip, are overly arrogant or aggressive, maybe even some are a bit scared, but to antagonize, question or disobey their directions is guaranteed to not improve the situation. Just follow directions to the letter, let them say their piece and if you're not happy after take it to a complaint or to court. I guarantee at that exact moment in time, flipping out or doing anything other than what they ask isn't going to help the situation or change their mind.
That said if there is a rash of abuse of power or misconduct, then it is the duty of the force or government to investigate and solve or quell the issue. Failure to do so will lead to shootings of police and more violence on both sides and nothing good will come of it.
My biggest issue with the recent shooting in St.Paul, like many others, is you don't see the whole incident and don't know the facts leading up to the shooting. To cast judgement without this knowledge is extremely premature and very irresponsible. I highly doubt that cop walked up to the car with a kid and woman in the car thinking I'm shooting this guy cause he's black. Did the cop make a mistake? Maybe. Did the guy do something threatening? Maybe. The only people alive that know is the cop and the woman. The rest of the world really should stfu and wait until it gets investigated.
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Totally agree. I don't understand why people don't/ can't see things this way.
Cops generally seam to get pissed when you implement 5th.. they are sooo ready for you to be a chatter box and trip yourself up when they ask questions
I know one thing, if black people felt stereotyped before, shooting a bunch of cops ain't gonna help. Now there will be a bunch of nervous cops running around with hair triggers, thinking that every encounter with a minority might be the one that gets them shot.
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These 'Black Lives Matter' people are complete idiots. How about ALL Lives Matter, no matter what your skin color?????????
What disgusts me is these idiots go out and protest the (relatively) few times a black person is killed by a white person, LEO or not, and more importantly they don't take into account the 'why' (for example, Trayvon Martin being shot when he was trying to beat George Zimmerman to a pulp on a sidewalk, or Michael Brown when he was trying to beat a cop and get his weapon), but what about the dozens or more black people killed every month by other black people?? Or white people killed by black people?? You never hear a peep about them. It's only 'black killed by white' that makes any news or protests. I'm not saying all cases are justified by any means - for example, the recent MN incident, the cop sounded seriously unhinged (not just 'holy crap I just shot someone' freaked out, but seriously unhinged) - even though IMO, the person he shot should have had his wallet in hand before the cop got out of the car (The few times I've been stopped, I've done just that), the cop was WAY too trigger happy IMO, and as far as I'm concerned, should fry for his actions.
What disgusts me is these idiots go out and protest the (relatively) few times a black person is killed by a white person, LEO or not, and more importantly they don't take into account the 'why' (for example, Trayvon Martin being shot when he was trying to beat George Zimmerman to a pulp on a sidewalk, or Michael Brown when he was trying to beat a cop and get his weapon), but what about the dozens or more black people killed every month by other black people?? Or white people killed by black people?? You never hear a peep about them. It's only 'black killed by white' that makes any news or protests. I'm not saying all cases are justified by any means - for example, the recent MN incident, the cop sounded seriously unhinged (not just 'holy crap I just shot someone' freaked out, but seriously unhinged) - even though IMO, the person he shot should have had his wallet in hand before the cop got out of the car (The few times I've been stopped, I've done just that), the cop was WAY too trigger happy IMO, and as far as I'm concerned, should fry for his actions.
I agree. I can't stand the Clinton's. Trump wouldnt win if he were the only one running. We as a country are headed for worse times than we have now.
Lemme break it down real quick. The BLM movement is funded by George Soros.
Soros owns Tavistock. Tavistock runs the govt. This shooting is a pure divide/conquer routine. The Feds are closing in on the Clinton Foundation ties that implicate Soros is running the show, foreign policies were broken, info was leaked, human trafficking, guns, drugs, etc.
The shooter was not a normal civilian. He was ex-mil and radicalized by the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers and other extremist groups are usually run by CIA operatives. The handlers know how push the right buttons to make people with bad intentions carry out their plan. See where I'm going? It's a nasty system that is in place and events like this are meant to polarize the nation and distract from the real, behind the scenes players. It's hard to articulate in a paragraph. Do your own research and see what you come up with.
She's not going to win. Trump is about to drop a bomb on her whole campaign and the Feds have so much info right now they don't what to do. If they prosocute her, the whole govt collapses.
Soros owns Tavistock. Tavistock runs the govt. This shooting is a pure divide/conquer routine. The Feds are closing in on the Clinton Foundation ties that implicate Soros is running the show, foreign policies were broken, info was leaked, human trafficking, guns, drugs, etc.
The shooter was not a normal civilian. He was ex-mil and radicalized by the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers and other extremist groups are usually run by CIA operatives. The handlers know how push the right buttons to make people with bad intentions carry out their plan. See where I'm going? It's a nasty system that is in place and events like this are meant to polarize the nation and distract from the real, behind the scenes players. It's hard to articulate in a paragraph. Do your own research and see what you come up with.
She's not going to win. Trump is about to drop a bomb on her whole campaign and the Feds have so much info right now they don't what to do. If they prosocute her, the whole govt collapses.
Ha ha your dreaming they won't ever touch her and trump won't hurt her.
I'm voting for him mainly to vote against hillary. I'd live for him to win just for the fact we can destroy him if need be. She's already untouchable and she's not president
I'm voting for him mainly to vote against hillary. I'd live for him to win just for the fact we can destroy him if need be. She's already untouchable and she's not president
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Have a read.. really wondered how deep the clintikn foundation went
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Have a read.. really wondered how deep the clintikn foundation went
Chris I couldn't agree more up until that last paragraph. I don't believe he isn't tied to her.
First and foremost, what a tragedy. I am heartbroken for the fallen and their loved ones. DPD is held in high regard as far as fairness and policing practices. These bullets were misplaced...
As Rand Paul aptly expounded during the December primary debate, blacks have been disproportionately imprisoned and impoverished due in part to the war on drugs. Besides the war on drugs being a complete farce and failure, Rand's point is accurate. The democratic policies surrounding black communities work directly against their success.
Blacks, as do we all, have a legitimate gripe in regards to policing practices and their relationship to tyrannical rule. It is a sad shame that the treatment of many blacks throughout the years at the hands of their representatives and "constitutional protectors" (cops) can be likened to trodden on. I wish a leader was able to unite we the people, the base of power and money, to bring us all forth from the filth we now live in. The filth of ever increasing regulations and taxation and the filth of ever decreasing personal liberties and freedoms.
If BLM and crew wished to make progress, those bullets were misplaced. Innocent heroes lost their lives, and innocent families will never be whole again. Many other examples can be drawn as far as who deserves a bullet in the name of Freedom.
How this unfolded, betrays the hopes of the black community with the actions of zealotry and racism, wanton destruction and death without a purpose. This situation highlights yet again the greater powers at work. I am a marksman, I watched those videos late into the night on thursday, there was more than one shooter or more than one rifle being fired simultaneously. The fact that the now "only" suspect is dead will lead to a bogus investigation. All the while the minds of we the people are distracted. Wool over the eyes of sheep on the way to slaughter. This was funded, or condoned by some power sect of our government. Someone who wishes to profit for the discourse and disarray that follows, or someone actively working against the freedom of we the people.
Someday, the blacks will again have a leader like MLK. MLK was not without fault, but he was eloquent and determined. I hope that we all have a real leader at some point, someone to lead the masses from the untruths of the society in which we now find ourselves. If it doesn't happen soon, America is doomed.
As Rand Paul aptly expounded during the December primary debate, blacks have been disproportionately imprisoned and impoverished due in part to the war on drugs. Besides the war on drugs being a complete farce and failure, Rand's point is accurate. The democratic policies surrounding black communities work directly against their success.
Blacks, as do we all, have a legitimate gripe in regards to policing practices and their relationship to tyrannical rule. It is a sad shame that the treatment of many blacks throughout the years at the hands of their representatives and "constitutional protectors" (cops) can be likened to trodden on. I wish a leader was able to unite we the people, the base of power and money, to bring us all forth from the filth we now live in. The filth of ever increasing regulations and taxation and the filth of ever decreasing personal liberties and freedoms.
If BLM and crew wished to make progress, those bullets were misplaced. Innocent heroes lost their lives, and innocent families will never be whole again. Many other examples can be drawn as far as who deserves a bullet in the name of Freedom.
How this unfolded, betrays the hopes of the black community with the actions of zealotry and racism, wanton destruction and death without a purpose. This situation highlights yet again the greater powers at work. I am a marksman, I watched those videos late into the night on thursday, there was more than one shooter or more than one rifle being fired simultaneously. The fact that the now "only" suspect is dead will lead to a bogus investigation. All the while the minds of we the people are distracted. Wool over the eyes of sheep on the way to slaughter. This was funded, or condoned by some power sect of our government. Someone who wishes to profit for the discourse and disarray that follows, or someone actively working against the freedom of we the people.
Someday, the blacks will again have a leader like MLK. MLK was not without fault, but he was eloquent and determined. I hope that we all have a real leader at some point, someone to lead the masses from the untruths of the society in which we now find ourselves. If it doesn't happen soon, America is doomed.
X2 the stuff is closely and tightly wound together anymore its unreal
It wouldn't surprise me