converter UNLOCK switches!!!

dmaxlover

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Weather permitting, should be able to try it out next weekend.

Question one, I have a manual lock-up switch wired in, and it looks like your un-lock controller uses one of the same wires (brown #29?). Where in the line should my lock-up wire be located? I'm assuming on the side of the wire that goes to the tranny, in other words between the the wire coming from your controller and the tranny?

Secondly, I'm using a push pull switch for my lock-up. Will I have to push this switch back in (open the circuit) before I flip the un-lock switch to un-lock the converter?

What about using a momentary switch for the lock-up so I don't have to screw around with 2 switches at the end of the track?
 

duratothemax

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OK guys sorry, ive been really really busy with customers trucks and other shop projects.

The first batch of 25 is gone, so I have to order more parts to make more, and get the 6-speed version fully tested and finalized. Im going to have to raise the price a bit just because expenses are increasing, and with how busy I am in the shop now, its difficult to make any profit with these unlock boxes. Im also working on an updated mounting system for the 'second gen' converter unlock boxes.

ben
 

bullfrogjohnson

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Once you switched the wires around, did it work fine? I just want to make sure nothing got fried... I highly doubt it though; the TCM's are pretty robust to wiring shorts and stuff.

Ben

Everything worked fine. I have used the switch several times since then and everything is great. I actually use it alot on the road for when the truck is in OD with the converter locked and I hit a slight hill and need to unlock the converter to keep from getting under the charger. :D

anyone else have feedback on these switches....? Questions? Complaints?

My only feedabck about the switch is the shear size. Is there any way to make the box house the circuit board and mount under the dash and have the switch mounted on the shifter by itself?

I also took several pictures of the install if anyone is interested in seeing them and the finished product on a truck.
 

dmaxlover

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Ben, I got a chance to try mine out this weekend. I am manually locking the converter at the beginning of the pull, at the end of the pull I pushed the lock up switch back in, then flipped the un-lock switch. The converter un-locked, but it still limped reverse. Any ideas?
 

bullfrogjohnson

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Ben, I got a chance to try mine out this weekend. I am manually locking the converter at the beginning of the pull, at the end of the pull I pushed the lock up switch back in, then flipped the un-lock switch. The converter un-locked, but it still limped reverse. Any ideas?

I'm ASSuming that your tying into the same wires for the lock-up switch and the unlock switch? So if your switches are in a series which one is the last switch the signal runs through before it goes to the tcm?
 

dmaxlover

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Yes, tying into the #29 brown wire. I cut this wire, and hooked the white wire from Ben's module to the tcm side. The black wire was then wired into the side leading to the transmission, along with my grounding wire that I use to lock the converter.

Everything works great except for the limping, which getting fixed is more important than un-locking the converter.
 

bullfrogjohnson

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Have you used the lock up switch before without issues before adding bens switch? I know that using a lock up switch that is not PWM controlled will cause a loss of reverse.
 

dmaxlover

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Yes, I've been using a lock up switch since last season and it's always limped reverse. I was under the impression that Ben's switch would fix this, maybe I misunderstood him??
 

bullfrogjohnson

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Yes, I've been using a lock up switch since last season and it's always limped reverse. I was under the impression that Ben's switch would fix this, maybe I misunderstood him??

Bens switch only controls the unlock side of the converter. In order to have control of lock up without losing reverse you need to be able to use a PWM signal to the TCC solenoid to command lockup in a 30-60-97% apply signal or else the tcm freaks out. The only box on the market that will do that is the allylocker. I am sure Ben could make something work but you would have to ask him. So as long as you run you manual lock up switch you will always lose reverse.

Are you having issues with the converter not locking or do you want control of when it locks?
 

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the guys using a copilot and a lockup switch don't lose reverse tho, right? At least none of the one's I've seen (prolly a half dozen peronsally) do.
 

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thats why I asked cause I thought you had a copilot. I have no idea why you are having trouble. I just know that I run with three guys that have 01-02 LB7s with copilots (and another with an 03 LB7) and they all use a lock & unlock switch every time and I've never seen them lose rev. at the end of the hook. well, one did for a little while but he had a corrupt TCM. Switched the TCM at the end of the pull every time for a little while. :D

Strange. :confused:
 

durallymax

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What Im wondering is if you can have a 3 way switch. one way it is locked, middle is like having both off and the other is unlock, it would be much nicer than two switches.

Ben let me know when you get them done, im still looking for one.

Thansk.
 

dmaxlover

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thats why I asked cause I thought you had a copilot. I have no idea why you are having trouble. I just know that I run with three guys that have 01-02 LB7s with copilots (and another with an 03 LB7) and they all use a lock & unlock switch every time and I've never seen them lose rev. at the end of the hook. well, one did for a little while but he had a corrupt TCM. Switched the TCM at the end of the pull every time for a little while. :D

Strange. :confused:

I've been thinking about this. Do you know if they have there switches wired into the co-pilot? If so, which wires on the co-pilot did they tie into?