Well 1800 rwhp came from Shane's mouth. Unless he is phibbing about his own truck.
climax at BG!!!
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Well 1800 rwhp came from Shane's mouth. Unless he is phibbing about his own truck.
I would hope triple turbo trucks are making way more than power than what single turbo 3.0 trucks make.
Most of the super stock trucks I have saw are twins and I don't know very many 3.0 trucks making 2500 hp and 1800 to the wheels. More in the ballpark of 1200 rwhp.
Take your 1200hp to the wheels truck to a national 3.0 hook and let us know how you make out.
Be Aware of how these engines are dynoed at this power level for this application....accurately....its not the same as putting said engine in a race truck on a dynojet, mustang, or even superflow chassis dyno
Shane was pulling your leg if he told you a "rwhp" because I'd bet a years wages his truck has never chassis dynoed so any number would be guess. It is well known he maxed out a 2500hp engine dyno. He's no longer the only one to have done so.
I've personally seen 1200fwhp 2.6 trucks. There again, none of the ones at the top chassis dyno their setups so any rwhp number would be a complete guess at drivetrain loss.
If you can believe em, the 3.0 trucks are said to be about 500hp more than 2.6 trucks. I've not witnessed those but theres a couple in this thread that compete solidly in the class and they're confirming those kinds of numbers.
Apparently its a much bigger jump from 3.0 to mod/ss than I thought! Shouldn't be too surprising though since I'm told just one of the super fancy hx82s out of the triple setup is $10k alone. Take that x3 & youve got a LOT of air on tap. I'm curious what they've figured out on how to get those schitty cummins heads to flow so much damn air!! Amazing!!
I've personally seen 1200fwhp 2.6 trucks. There again, none of the ones at the top chassis dyno their setups so any rwhp number would be a complete guess at drivetrain loss.
If you can believe em, the 3.0 trucks are said to be about 500hp more than 2.6 trucks. I've not witnessed those but theres a couple in this thread that compete solidly in the class and they're confirming those kinds of numbers.
Apparently its a much bigger jump from 3.0 to mod/ss than I thought! Shouldn't be too surprising though since I'm told just one of the super fancy hx82s out of the triple setup is $10k alone. Take that x3 & youve got a LOT of air on tap. I'm curious what they've figured out on how to get those schitty cummins heads to flow so much damn air!! Amazing!!
If they are really putting out those large numbers then that truly is amazing and I agree I would love to know how they move that much air also. The only real numbers I have witnessed with my eyes are my own. And I know how my truck stacks up in 2.6. And it's not at the 1200 level.
I know of a cummins powerplant with a new 3.0" hx82 made 1670 fwhp on Engelkings dyno in Illinois from a reliable source...enough said
I'm pretty sure a dropbox only robs 10% or less hp... thats 1400+ to wheels with a 3.0, and I can speak from experience when I say now the winning 3.0 truck is the best driver of the night, 3.0's r having trouble "hooking" out of the hole on 6 dot tires, and the SS diesels have had that trouble on bar tires for last 2 season.
I also know of a 4.1" limited prostock, single charger, with a slotted compressor cover making 2250-2300 fwhp, I guarantee even with twins SS diesel trucks are 2800+ and triples are 3000 hp MINIMUM. Climax's twins were small compared to Shane's, so he was probably 17-1800 hp, not sure of he changed setup, and his truck ran well, but wasn't a first place contender, hopefully will be soon
No disrespect to Kyle, runs way better than mine!
I'm pretty sure a dropbox only robs 10% or less hp... thats 1400+ to wheels with a 3.0, and I can speak from experience when I say now the winning 3.0 truck is the best driver of the night, 3.0's r having trouble "hooking" out of the hole on 6 dot tires, and the SS diesels have had that trouble on bar tires for last 2 season.
I also know of a 4.1" limited prostock, single charger, with a slotted compressor cover making 2250-2300 fwhp, I guarantee even with twins SS diesel trucks are 2800+ and triples are 3000 hp MINIMUM. Climax's twins were small compared to Shane's, so he was probably 17-1800 hp, not sure of he changed setup, and his truck ran well, but wasn't a first place contender, hopefully will be soon
No disrespect to Kyle, runs way better than mine!
I know of a cummins powerplant with a new 3.0" hx82 made 1670 fwhp on Engelkings dyno in Illinois from a reliable source...enough said
I'm pretty sure a dropbox only robs 10% or less hp... thats 1400+ to wheels with a 3.0, and I can speak from experience when I say now the winning 3.0 truck is the best driver of the night, 3.0's r having trouble "hooking" out of the hole on 6 dot tires, and the SS diesels have had that trouble on bar tires for last 2 season.
I also know of a 4.1" limited prostock, single charger, with a slotted compressor cover making 2250-2300 fwhp, I guarantee even with twins SS diesel trucks are 2800+ and triples are 3000 hp MINIMUM. Climax's twins were small compared to Shane's, so he was probably 17-1800 hp, not sure of he changed setup, and his truck ran well, but wasn't a first place contender, hopefully will be soon
Thanks for sharing that with us.
I also know what the "real" numbers on head flows are from a guy that did my cylinder heads for this season...
And with a good cylinder head guy dmax heads r the ones that suck! He can get way more flow out of a hogged out welded up stock 12 valve cummins head than we can imagine from ported big valve dmax heads... let alone if he uses a cast Hamilton 12V cummins head.
We are in big need of Brodix heads, too bad the cost isn't manageable on them
And with a good cylinder head guy dmax heads r the ones that suck! He can get way more flow out of a hogged out welded up stock 12 valve cummins head than we can imagine from ported big valve dmax heads... let alone if he uses a cast Hamilton 12V cummins head.
We are in big need of Brodix heads, too bad the cost isn't manageable on them
I knew a cummins head had a lot more potential than the Dmax or Strokes...
What flows more though, a 12v head or a 24v head, assuming both are balls to the wall ported, etc.
What flows more though, a 12v head or a 24v head, assuming both are balls to the wall ported, etc.
12v head does with max effort, the right 24v head flows well and can go milder on cam for street use, but all out 12v head gains flow past .700-.750 lift... 4 valves get 2 shrouded 4 all out performance or race I think...
That's almost exactly what I was told a few hours ago. The 12v head will flow more when you get into the larger lift cams. Thanks