Beware of gm remans

[nwodiesel]

jUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS.... GM HAS NOW OUTSOURCED ITS INJECTOR REBUILDS TO A NO NAME REBUILDER. tHEY ARE NOT DONE BY BOSCH.... NOR IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO EVEN HAVE GENUINE BOSCH INTERNALS AS BOSCH WILL NOT SELL THEIR COMPONENTS TO ANYONE... SO WHAT KIND OF PARTS ARE IN THERE. bOSCH TOLD ME GM'S ARE NOW THE SAME QUALITY AS THEIR " JOBBER" REMANS..... BUT WITHOUT THE LATEST GREATEST IMPROVEMENTS AND QUALITY PARTS. nO NAME INJECTORS ARE NOT WORTH $100 nvmd $400.... and to add insult to injury... I got 4 reman injectors that weren't even bosch/Isuzu bodies. They were basically a rebuilt aftermarket. considering the labour intense nature of replacement, Im buying BN straight from Bosch. Gm should be ashamed.

 

[DBUSHLB7]

While I don't have any reason to doubt what you're saying, do you have proof that what you are saying is true? As you must know there is a lot of bad/false info on the Internet these days so it would be nice for the members to know they are listening to a credible source. Please don't take offense to my post.

 

[durallymax]

You talking to Joe?

If you paid $400 you were overcharged. Walk in price (100% markup) is still slightly lower than $400, and a quick search on the internet finds you them from wholesalers for $200. Buying them through a Bosch dealer will cost you over $400. I buy LLY+ injectors from bosch dealers enough times but they are reasonably priced compared to GM.

Lately many of the ones I have gotten have a new body. With the cracked body issues these were having its no surprise, they were bound to run out of good cores eventually.

I'd be curious where the info came from as well.

 

[durallymax]

Called Bosch and story checks out, actually think I probably talked to same guy because he said he just talked to another guy about them.

Bosch has not been doing the remans for GM for at least a couple years now he said. Guess I didn't realize it was that long. I've used enough GM remans in that time and haven't had issues. I'd bet their still better than Pensacola but probably not quite up to the standards of Bosch.

Well played GM, well played.


I do still feel like there is more to this story somewhere, can't believe its been a couple years since they switched and nobody noticed. I noticed some different bodies last winter for the first time, but people on here said they had seen them too and it was normal. Maybe it took awhile for the warehouses to empty out.

Maybe some Bosch dealers have some insider info. Figured if its been this long someone selling Bosch instead of GM would've raised the red flag to generate more sales if nothing else.

 

[mike diesel]

We put a set of "bosch" remans in my cousins lb7 late 2012. Have not had a single issue yet. Does this out source only apply to lb7 injectors?

 

[nwodiesel]

call bosch..... theyre irate that gm is ruining their hard earned credibility.Apparantly this was changed 2 yes two yrs ago....This is in Canada just FYI. USA GM may be different... but from my experience we follow the US .... not the other way around. 4 of my 8 weren't even Isuzu/bosche bodies!!!!!!! REman aftermarkets I guess. pfff. Im paying for new from Bosch directly. Irefuse to be broke down at the mercy of a mechanic I don't know..... somewhere in the rocky mountains, well at least not for that. LOL

 

[DIESELMAFIAPER.LB7]

Mike did you get them from gm? May have still had some actual bosch remans left there using up first hopefully they are good quality though

 

[nwodiesel]

Id be willing to bet as soon as gm got a taste of tripling their profit....... there was no brakes on that train. Id bet all of them now. Problem is here in at my stealer.... if u install them yourself, and u aren't a gm tech, they just blame u and no warranty. I was willing to accept that....but that's why I wanted good parts. May as well buy them off ebay

 

[Burn Down]

Exergy still only uses Bosch Remans...

 

[DIESELMAFIAPER.LB7]

You can get bosch remans from merchant, Exergy and industrial still:thumb:I'm sure a few others as well

 

[steve86]

How do you know if there bosch or sumthing different? Just got done putting some in myself from lincoln diesel. Hope they know what's going on because they said the we're bosch remans
:acceler:

 

[durallymax]

We put a set of "bosch" remans in my cousins lb7 late 2012. Have not had a single issue yet. Does this out source only apply to lb7 injectors?

I have only had issues with Pensacola remans in all of the sets I have done. Enough people get rid of their trucks though too so all I can say is I haven't had to replace any other than the Pensacola's. Both sets of Pensacolas I did I had to replace, fortunately one was one of our farm trucks and the other was a relatives so not as big of a deal as it could've been.

I only called to check on the LB7 injectors. If you want to call Bosch and check on the others you can, their number is 888-715-3616. Ironically they actually want you to call them instead of email or other automated stuff like every other company. A real person answers, takes down your info and sends it to the right person. They call back within a few minutes. Nice people, very helpful. Get the Bosch part numbers available for them as well just to keep things clear.

The price difference going through a Bosch dealer versus GM on the LLY and later injectors is not that much different. Especially since many injection shops will test the injectors for free if you buy the replacement from them.

The price difference buying the LB7 ones through Bosch dealers here versus GM wholesales was more than double though.

Mike did you get them from gm? May have still had some actual bosch remans left there using up first hopefully they are good quality though

I'd bet they had enough stocked up that took awhile to get distributed.

I can't say I've seen many complaints so maybe whoever GM has rebuilding them is doing a decent job. Can't be too quick to criticize, but at the same time I don't put a ton of faith in GM parts because enough can be subpar and over priced. A lot of people complain about buying parts for German cars, but at least you get a high quality part 9/10 times.

 

[durallymax]

How do you know if there bosch or sumthing different? Just got done putting some in myself from lincoln diesel. Hope they know what's going on because they said the we're bosch remans
:acceler:

Thats the confusing part now. I don't know where specific dealers all source their parts, but everyone always called the Gm ones the "Bosch Remans" direct from Bosch. Now things will be more confusing.

I have not purchased a Bosch LB7 injector, but have Purchased others and they do not come with any GM numbers on the box like the GM LB7 ones do IIRC.

 

[nwodiesel]

They have realized ....but because gm contracted bosch to make "their" part they have the right to do what they want...... and bosch has its hands tied. Imagine how Isuzu feels. GM are Thieves that don't stand behind jack anymore

 

[mike diesel]

Mike did you get them from gm? May have still had some actual bosch remans left there using up first hopefully they are good quality though

My cousin got them from injectors direct. I don't remember looking at them close enough to remember if they were bosch bodies or not. I check his balance rate last week actually and they were still all perfect.

 

[nwodiesel]

Not sure but LD said they were "identical" to GM's.....but maybe they don't know like u said. Funny how one company's corperate greed and dishonesty cause problems for sincere hardworking guys....just trying make a living.

 

[nwodiesel]

I just don't wanna be stuck somewhere......don't care about the money, its the principle.... mind u people have been selling swamp land in florida as prime space since forever haha

 

[Ne-max]

This might be a good thing. Remember all the Bosch injector failures in the lb7s. :thumb:

 

[steve86]

Is there any vendors on here to shine some light on this?

 

[mike diesel]

Well considering even "genuine bosch remans" still failed regularly on lb7's...whether it be 30,000 miles or 130,000 miles, replacing injectors was/is inevitable..i wouldn't sweat it too much considering this injector outsourcing has apparently been happening for the last couple years now. I don't recall ever hearing of an increased number of failures in the last 2+ years or so.