BC connecting rods for the D Max

SilveradoTwins02

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Has anyone heard of Brian Crower inc. He is the son of the gentleman that started Crower. Anyways, his company has a rod coming out for the D Max that is suppose to equal the Crower rod at a much more affordable price. I was told the group working for him came from Crower and are designing ,manufacturing and offering parts to the consumer without the price gouging that has been going on for years. They will be billet 4340 I beam design from what he told me. Should be out in 5 weeks.
I know everyone will go back to the d max tuner rods and what happen to them. I wonder the same. Just wondering if anyone has heard any different.
 

hondarider552

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I don't know a single person that even has the Manley rods in their engine and have a good amount of high power miles on them.

Honestly, Carrillo's/Crowers are a proven design, and for the cost of even rebuilding a stock engine, let alone a built engine, it's too much of a risk to try a new rod for the 90% of us on here.
 

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Check ebay, seen a set for 1400$ or so... I'm with Brian. Tested and proven make me happy. Not saying these aren't an option but will need extensive testing
 

SilveradoTwins02

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I think that E Bay Picture is a Generic Picture of the rod. I was told that they are finalizing the production tooling. It will be 5 weeks before they will sell to the public.
I asked about testing of the rods and was told they have been doing this for years with "The Father Company" we know how to build rods. I understand that but still would like to see real life testing completed. Like all of us that invest hard earned money into these engines.
 

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The reason the other rods are all proven is because they have been run for years. I really doubt Crower or Carrillo installed their rods in a high HP Duramax before they were released to the public (mainly because there really weren't any, what we would now call, high horsepower Duramaxes around at the time). I'm sure they just did computer analyses of the rods and made sure they were designed to stand up to their requirements they set for the rod. There is a big difference between these rods or the Manley rods and the ill-fated rods that Duramax Tuner released a few years ago. Both of those companies are in the business of designing and building high performance aftermarket internal engine parts.
 

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The reason the other rods are all proven is because they have been run for years. I really doubt Crower or Carrillo installed their rods in a high HP Duramax before they were released to the public (mainly because there really weren't any, what we would now call, high horsepower Duramaxes around at the time). I'm sure they just did computer analyses of the rods and made sure they were designed to stand up to their requirements they set for the rod. There is a big difference between these rods or the Manley rods and the ill-fated rods that Duramax Tuner released a few years ago. Both of those companies are in the business of designing and building high performance aftermarket internal engine parts.

You try them first:D
 

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if the "son" went out on his own and is undercutting his own "dad" on pricing, has yet to get the tooling together, and is already putting them on the market for the public to buy, i wouldnt trust them. Not to metion he stated you "just trust him cause daddy tought me how to build rods". that aint how it works.

this should be interesting none the less if someone trys them. :D
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving the Brian Crower rods my "stamp of approval" or anything like that. I'm just saying comparing these to the DT rods is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. I would like to see more info about them before I made any decision. I don't think this type of attitude toward new products is doing anything to help us. Would you want to be a manufacturer trying to develop a new product when everyone is saying, "stick to what we know works" before your product is even released? I mean, no one here really even knows anything about it yet, and it's already a POS rod.
 

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I am ordering a set and will post some picts,hope im not burning 1500 but time will tell.carrillos would be nice but the cash just isnt there and other hand
coming from crower they cant be that inferior just a more affordable option.
 

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if the "son" went out on his own and is undercutting his own "dad" on pricing, has yet to get the tooling together, and is already putting them on the market for the public to buy, i wouldnt trust them. Not to metion he stated you "just trust him cause daddy tought me how to build rods". that aint how it works.

this should be interesting none the less if someone trys them. :D

This doesn't look like a new company that is just getting into the rod business. http://www.briancrower.com/
 

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I am ordering a set and will post some picts,hope im not burning 1500 but time will tell.carrillos would be nice but the cash just isnt there and other hand
coming from crower they cant be that inferior just a more affordable option.

It's not the 1500 you have to worry about if they don't hold up, it's the 10k in damage they could cause to the rest of the engine. I appreciate the pioneering spirit and I really do hope they work. Right now I haven't seen enough information about them to remotely consider them worth trying. I'd be really interested to have Guy get ahold of a set and give us some input.
 

SilveradoTwins02

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yes, that company on E bay must be a vendor for Brian Crower Inc.. They are not listed on BC website yet and the tech i talked to said that these are made and machined here in the USA. I also asked if the metal or forging were from overseas and machined here. He said no, that all was done here. on his site he shows Parts for GM LS motors and import engines also.

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Brian Crower, Inc. was created to fill the need for high quality, high performance, late model internal engine components, in stock, at very affordable prices. Stroker kits for all popular Sport Compact applications and camshafts and valve train to match. Complete packages designed to work together to deliver more horsepower and torque as well as greater reliability. Brian Crower, Inc. employs state-of-the-art CNC grinding machines to insure exacting tolerances. Small diameter camshaft grinding wheels on certain BC cam part numbers like Honda B and K Series, Nissan SR20 and Mitsubishi 4G63 deliver added valve action for greater cylinder fill rates. All BC crankshafts and connecting rods are made from the highest quality 4340 steel alloy, CNC machined and finished to the tightest industry specifications. Premium grade 6AL4V titanium retainers, 100% RC checked for hardness, and super clean chrome silicone spring wire for the highest rpm range possible. Every product line is tested on precision measuring instruments for accuracy, imperfections and metallurgy. Dyno tested and tuned for optimum results. Brian Crower grew up at Crower Cams & Equipment Company, where he headed up the Crower Sport Compact division since its inception. With Crower Cams heavily focused on the V8 market, Brian saw an opportunity to truly support the needs of the Sport Compact community. With the support of his family, Brian Crower Inc. was formed to deliver the highest quality internal engine components for a variety of popular engine platforms.
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It'd be neat to see someone with an engine dyno (hint hint Danville) do like Trent did with the crowers, throw a set in an otherwise stock engine (don't even re-balance the assembly) and see what it'll do.

I'm mean crap, $1500 is getting affordable!
 

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if the "son" went out on his own and is undercutting his own "dad" on pricing, has yet to get the tooling together, and is already putting them on the market for the public to buy, i wouldnt trust them. Not to metion he stated you "just trust him cause daddy tought me how to build rods". that aint how it works.

this should be interesting none the less if someone trys them. :D

Bruce Crower (dad) is in his 70's, been doing speed equipment for about 50yrs. Younger brother Dave is over 70 and has been working with the company since the 60's. The "son" is no kid and he's been around this stuff all his life.