Barack Obama

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If you honestly can read this as an American and not be the least bit worried or nervous about this wolf in sheeps clothing, I'm absolutely floored and beside myself! I'll go ahead and reduse myself to beg folks NOT to vote for Barack Obama if you even remotely have any care, love or enjoy this country at all!

Little email I got a moment ago...





Subject: Fwd: OBama






Subject: He said WHAT???????

MY God! I hope every one is listening, before it is to late.
Subject: Wow

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the
picture'.
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised
"Meet
The Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the
Washington Post!!

Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!!

Must say that I'm dually impressed..................

From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about
his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance

Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked
Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National
Anthem is played.

The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the
national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in
uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the
right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It"

Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin,
I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a
lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of
oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know,
the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something
less parochial and less bellicose.
I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our
anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our
National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our
enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America
to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren.
If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the
nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of
mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will
seek a pact or agreement to send hostilities between those who have been
at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting
oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon
the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag
for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag
burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I
have mine". Of course now, I have found myself about to become the
President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will
use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and
offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to
becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to
overwhelm the United States of America.



WHAAAAAAAT the Hell!

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be
our next President.

I, for one, am speechless.

Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post
 
Redbone

Redbone

but this one goes to 11
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As much as I detest Obama and every bit of socialist mantra he spews, the e-mail is bogus. Joe Biden was on Meet the Press on 9/7/08.

But there are still lots of other reasons to not put that schmuck in office!:D
 
paint94979

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SmokeShow said:
If you honestly can read this as an American and not be the least bit worried or nervous about this wolf in sheeps clothing, I'm absolutely floored and beside myself! I'll go ahead and reduse myself to beg folks NOT to vote for Barack Obama if you even remotely have any care, love or enjoy this country at all!

Little email I got a moment ago...





Subject: Fwd: OBama






Subject: He said WHAT???????

MY God! I hope every one is listening, before it is to late.
Subject: Wow

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the
picture'.
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised
"Meet
The Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the
Washington Post!!

Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!!

Must say that I'm dually impressed..................

From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about
his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance

Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked
Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National
Anthem is played.

The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the
national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in
uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the
right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It"

Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin,
I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a
lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of
oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know,
the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something
less parochial and less bellicose.
I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our
anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our
National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our
enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America
to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren.
If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the
nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of
mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will
seek a pact or agreement to send hostilities between those who have been
at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting
oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon
the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag
for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag
burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I
have mine". Of course now, I have found myself about to become the
President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will
use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and
offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to
becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to
overwhelm the United States of America.



WHAAAAAAAT the Hell!

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be
our next President.

I, for one, am speechless.

Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post
Click to expand...

It terrifies me to watch him speak of "Change".... I have a College Education and I was taught the definition of the term "Socialism" and all of his "policies" of "Change" SCREAM Socialist... he's going to give tax breaks to "Working Class" people every single one of us here are "Working Class" the people he is going to help are the people that don't have jobs it sickens me to see uneducated ignorant people backing this man. An example one of my friends is black(im not saying all black people feel this way just trying to give an example showing my friends connection to Obama) and the only rebuttal he has towards my statements about Obama (GOD I couldnt imagine saying President Obama:barf:) are, "WHAT! do you want another 4 years of Bush... your an "idiot." After that I just let it go because he is so ignorant that he feels Obama is the Messiah.... I truely dislike liberalism... I am reminded of a quote by a very popular right wing radio show host Michael Savage, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
 
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Buccanoles

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I've done my research on this turd. I've read his book "The Audacity of Hope". If I didnt know that Karl Marx was dead, I would have swore that he wrote it. He partially spilled the beans during the last debate when he said he wanted to "spread the wealth". Scary shit for sure.
 
LB7Diesel

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The news around here showed pics of the early voting lines and it looked like a wel-fare line at the beginning of the month. Makes me sick to think how many american's are voting for this man!!! What happen to the values this country was built on? The freakin Mainstream Media has brainwashed everyone into this Obama crap, and there doing everything they can to help him get elected so they can have a freakin story, not caring about the what's really important.

If he's elected I'm going to live with Simon or Lennart and throw snowballs!
 
SmokeShow

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Well, I'm being told that snopes.com says the email is bogus and I probably posted it in haste but honestly it truly is SCARY for me to think that this guy could be the next U.S. president. Literally has me on edge about the subject. Perhaps that's a bit paranoid or radical or whatever but that's how I feel. Very unsettling for me.


C-ya
 
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This is from the WSJ this morning.

Imagine this: Barack Obama proposes a Social Security payroll tax cut for low earners. Workers earning up to $8,000 per year would receive back the full 6.2% employee share of the 12.4% total payroll tax, up to $500 per year. Workers earning over $8,000 would receive $500 each, with this credit phasing out for individuals earning between $75,000 and $85,000.
[Commentary] AP

This tax cut would make an already progressive Social Security program even more redistributive. Under current law, a very low earner receives an inflation-adjusted return on his Social Security taxes of around 4%. That's a good return, given that government bonds are projected to return less than 3% above inflation. A high-earning worker, on the other hand, receives only around a 1.5% rate of return. Under Sen. Obama's proposal, returns for very low earners would rise to around 6% above inflation -- about the same return as on stocks, except with none of the risk. Compounded over a lifetime's contributions, the difference in the "deal" offered to workers of different earnings levels would be extreme.

While Social Security has always been progressive, many would say this plan goes too far and risks turning Social Security into a "welfare program." Low earners receive more in benefits than they pay in taxes -- meaning their "net tax" is already negative -- and Mr. Obama's plan would increase net subsidies from the program.

Moreover, this payroll tax cut plan would reduce Social Security's tax revenues by around $710 billion over the next 10 years. If made permanent, the Obama tax cut would increase Social Security's long-term deficit by almost 60% and push the program into insolvency in 2034, versus 2041 under current projections.

To fill the hole in Social Security's finances, Mr. Obama would increase income taxes on high earners and pour that money into Social Security. This would be the first time that income tax revenues have been used to finance Social Security, which has always relied on its own dedicated payroll tax to differentiate itself from other government programs. Filling the gap with higher taxes on high earners would further increase Social Security's progressivity, pushing it closer toward a welfare-program approach.

Now, you haven't heard Mr. Obama describe anything like this plan. If you had, it's likely you wouldn't support it. But it's almost exactly what his headline "tax cut" would do. The Obama campaign took the idea described above and made it much more complicated.

Under the plan, which he claims would cut taxes for 95% of Americans, provides an income tax credit worth 6.2% of earnings up to $8,000, for a maximum credit of $500 per worker or $1,000 per couple. The 6.2% figure is important, because it matches the employee share of the Social Security payroll tax. Because around a third of Americans currently pay no income taxes -- a fraction that would rise to almost half under Mr. Obama's plan, according to the Tax Policy Center -- Mr. Obama's tax credits would be refundable, meaning you could collect the credit even if you paid no income taxes.

While Mr. Obama calls his plan "Making Work Pay," under standard economic assumptions his plan would actually discourage work for anyone earning over $8,000 per year. The tax credit itself would increase workers' take-home pay, an "income effect" that reduces incentives to work. Moreover, for workers in the $75,000 to $85,000 income range, where the tax credit is phased out at five cents for each dollar of additional income, this would add five percentage points to their marginal tax rate.

So Mr. Obama has in essence proposed cutting Social Security taxes for low earners, which would shift the system toward a "welfare" approach and sharply increase its long-term deficit. To fill the funding gap, he will raise taxes on high earners and funnel the money into Social Security, making the system even more progressive and breaking a long tradition against funding Social Security with income taxes.

The complex way in which Mr. Obama structures and describes his plan would make it harder to administer than a straight payroll tax cut. But it is also more difficult for the typical American to understand. This may explain why he chose complexity over clarity.

Mr. Biggs is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. He blogs on Social Security policy at www.andrewgbiggs.blogspot.com.
 
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