Aussie fires

Please spare a thought for the horrible time we are currently going through here in Southern Australia :( and thank-you to those of you who have contacted Ross, Paul and myself over this past week expressing concern.

This last week would have to be one of the darkest in our 200 year history, and for the EFILive team it's so close to home.

In a 24 hour period, approx 300 lives were lost in our devastating bush fires. At this stage, the "official" death count is only 181 because of the ongoing fires, and the dangerous issues of re-accessing the fire ravaged areas. (Try sifting through a home that's only 3 inches high looking for entire families, which is what our volunteer fire fighters (some of which are our friends) are currently doing)

Whilst the EFILive team hasn't been directly affected - we are all safe and well, we've been uncomfortably close to the action. We have family in most of the affected areas, family working to create fire breaks, family isolated in towns all week surrounded by fire, and friends who have lost everything. Today walking to pick our children up from school ash was falling, and we've been blanketed in smoke for a couple of days now. Ross and I live about 30 minutes from the major fires in an area that is unlikely to be affected.

To give perspective on the weather conditions of last Saturday, we've been in drought for 8-10 years. The areas affected were very heavily bushed - most of it was National Park land with nice little towns tucked in between. 6-8 foot long embers were travelling up to 5kms ahead of the fire front. The fire was moving at over 100kms per hour in speed - giving many residents only 5 or 6 minutes warning (the main reason why so many perished) The swirling winds also meant that embers were flying in many directions causing many many spot fires and increasing the size of the fire front very rapidly.

My parents chose not to be home on Saturday due to the expected weather conditions - 2 miles up their road 3 people lost their lives, and within another 2 mile radius another 30-40 people perished in the next 2 towns.

30 minutes drive away from my parents, my sister's town was evacuated, and surrounded by fire. At this stage they are still looking for around 30 people who are still missing, presumed dead. As a kindergarten teacher, many of her 4YO students have seen too much for their young innocent eyes, about 6 of her students have lost their homes, and 2 families are reported as missing - horrific for anyone to deal with, let alone a bunch of 4YO's questioning where their friends are.

Moving further around Melbourne Ross's sister remains on high alert, and 20 minute further out Paul's sister's town has also been under threat. Earlier in the week, they had to evacuate, but they have now been able to return, although the threat is not over. Ross's brother in law hasn't stop working since Sunday to protect Melbourne's water supply. He and some of his workers and bulldozing a fire break to protect the water pipeline.

Many friends of my parents haven't been so lucky. They know many people in one of the worst affected areas, Kinglake - one is in hospital after being involved in a head on car accident fleeing the fires - visibility was non existent. He was then hit from behind as well. He crawled out of the passenger door and collapsed on the road as the bushfire started to destroy his car, and the other cars in the crash. The lady who hit him from behind sort refuge in the ditch at the side of the road, then noticed him and pulled him to safety. Unfortunately, the driver of the other car didn't get out in time and perished. This same friend of my parents lost his home, every possession (including his eye glasses in the crash) and although suffering chest injuries, is just thankful that he is still alive. His wife got out in time, as did his son, daughter in law and grandchildren who also lost their home. We also know of others who have lost absolutely everything.

Another friend of my parents broke into our bulldozing brother in law's machinery workshop which is next door to his home, hot wired an excavator and bulldozed a fire break around the workshop and the 4 surrounding houses - these 5 buildings are among only a dozen or so still standing out of 1500 homes and businesses in the town. This selfless act not only saved lives, it also has meant that our brother in law's equipment can now be used in other areas to create further fire breaks.

By far their are many many worse stories out there than the one's we directly know of, especially the town of Marysville where they are expecting that over 100 of the town's 500 residents have perished. Heartbreaking in itself, it's just been announced that this fire was most likely deliberately lit.

Over the coming days please think of us Aussies. Our weather conditions have been better over the last 4 days, but many of the fires are still burning out of control. The weather is expected to get hot and windy early next week which will cause many more problems. As the Coroner is able to move into more towns and document their findings, our death toll will continue to rise

I have some photos of the fires taken by my sister and some of her friends, I'll post them shortly.

Cheers
Cindy
 

McRat

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:eek:

I guess I don't watch the news enough.

My prayers to the families who lost loved ones, homes, and lives.

Wildfires can be very tricky. We were closer than we wanted to be to one when the kids were little. There were firetrucks in our driveway in case it jumped the road. Get ready to move out just in case.
 

malibu795

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yes they can pat...


when the EPA(euqivlant) make rules against keeping shurbs and tree away from buildings and structures ( the opposite of what cali regulates trees/bushes/shrubs need to be XX feet from buildings) thus making it easier to fire to jump roads, and buildings.. its a shot in both feet.

and now the eviromentalist.. had their way and are now getting people killed cause of said rules due to the lack of commonsence that tend to run amuck with them:(

its sad to see this happen... hopefully its a leason learned.


not trying to down play the loss of anything cindy..

payers and thoughts are with you guys..
 
These photos are not my sisters, I'll post them later today.

I've downloaded these off one of our news sites, so unfortunately they have been shrunk beyond belief. The Car picture is the accident my parent's friend survived. His car I think is the 2nd on the left.

The Melbourne photo is a picture of the view from Kinglake West, taken near where the accident occurred looking back to Melbourne. It's a little deceptive, but Melbourne would be 20 miles away. (My distances may be wrong, but it would take the best part of an hour to drive there)

The Strathewen photo was taken from the air at the height of the fire, and covers Strathewen to Kinglake. Strathewen is one of the towns located 2-4 miles from my parents house where 30 people out of the 100 people who live there died.
 

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yes they can pat...
when the EPA(euqivlant) make rules against keeping shurbs and tree away from buildings and structures ( the opposite of what cali regulates trees/bushes/shrubs need to be XX feet from buildings) thus making it easier to fire to jump roads, and buildings.. its a shot in both feet.

and now the eviromentalist.. had their way and are now getting people killed cause of said rules due to the lack of commonsence that tend to run amuck with them:(

its sad to see this happen... hopefully its a leason learned.

not trying to down play the loss of anything cindy..

payers and thoughts are with you guys..

Thats exactly what happened - the bloody greenies got hold of local council 10-15 years ago. In these areas there has been no burning off for 15 years or so, coupled with drought, there was more fuel to add to the fire then there has ever been in our history. It's been a disaster waiting to happen, it was just unfortunate that the weather was nothing like we've ever had before to move the fires so quickly.

The shire that my parents live in is known as "the green wedge", the greenies sucessfully lobbied to change house planning laws to ensure that trees were planted around new structures to make it look like a natural forest. Yep, create yourselves a death trap or don't build here (I'm being extreme, but it's true)

My parents neighbours tried to cut down some trees 15 years ago to make fire engine access to their property, council declined. After several heated discussions, they were allowed to cut down some trees but not all because "what would happen to the ants"

The neighbour was a member of the local CFA (Country Fire authority) and his house was banned from fire attendance because a truck couldn't turn around which posed a safety risk to the CFA members and equipment...........government has ALOT to answer for.
 

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Good luck cindy and to those that are afected. I have been waching whats been going on. the lack of clearing that was allowed and unburned brush. and beig so dry was just a acident wateing to happen. fire storms like that are a true nightmere and the devestation is like a war zone. being through both the malibu and Laguna beach fires. 12 years ago and being a fire fighter my self well was. its like a whole nother world. I wish you guys all the best and prayers to all of you. And theres not punishment they can give they guy or guys that started that fire. that will be severe enough:mad:
 

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Wow Cindy. I hope all you guys are doing ok and are gonna be fine. I hadnt heard anything either.

Were all thinking about you guys, wish I was able to help you guys out down there.
 

mytmousemalibu

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I wish you guys all the best out of a bad situation:( , hope this ends soon, terrible deal!

Prayers, Chris :cry::(
 
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Having family in OZ (Caloundra) and having once visited, I do pay attention to your news and have been thinking of you all. Glad to hear you are safe; my parents lost their home and possessions to a fire about 4 years ago. It is not a pleasant task trying to rescue what memories you can from the ashes...I cannot imagine the loss of friends and family...

Best - Tom
 
minisub; Caloundra is a lovely part of the world. We've been through there a few times while on Holidays on the Sunshine Coast - great beaches there for the kids :) I think that Caloundra was far enough south to miss 90% of the cyclonic rain that has been going on in Northern Australia this past month.

Whilst we are in severe drought and have had fire storms in the South, the North of Australia has been hit by a cyclone and associated rain. Some towns have had 230 inches of rain over the last 2-3 weeks, with up to 25 inches falling in a 2 hour period. Over 400,000 square miles (1 million sq kms) have been underwater, and towns have been cutoff for several weeks.

As for the fires, thankyou for all your good wishes. The weekend weather conditions have been favourable and allowed some back burning to occur to ensure town safety for the heat and wind expected this week. At this stage there are no towns directly under threat, there are still 8 fires burning out of control that have the potential to threaten towns if conditions change quickly.

Realistically the threats won't pass until winter kicks in - probably in May.

My sister has now been in contact with all but 1 of her kinder families, which is a huge relief. Over the weekend we've had fire fighters, disaster control/logisitcs staff, sniffer dogs for body retrival, and identity specialists arrive from interstate, New Zealand, and 60 arrive from the USA. So far the Australian public and big business have donated over $100 million for the relief and rebuilding effort.

Cheers
Cindy
 

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is there any kind of "trust fund" or something we could donate a few dollars to via pay-pal, to try to help somehow? i will not have anything to send myself till maybe the end of the week when i finish a engine swap on an OLD ZR-1, let me know..thanks ~jeff