Almost wrecked the truck today.

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On my way to work @ 7:00am this morning. I was on the back country roads, when a School bus coming from the opposite direction, decides to turn directly in front of me. I guess he was trying to go into a farmers driveway. Well the farmer had his dumpster in the middle of the driveway for the garbage man. So Im going about 70mph as the bus comes to a stop directly crossing the road, and throws on his red's. I locked up the truck, and had to do a little dirt trackn' to keep from having yellow racing stripes. After I came to a stop, the trans did an awful slam pulled a p0700,p0751,p0756.p0873,p0877. It was stuck in 4th for about a mile until I got to work and was able to clear the codes. I think I was Mikes alarm clock this morning:D. SO far so good, but the trans seems to be relearning the shifts, as the master said it probably would. I felt like ringing that drivers neck...
 

paint94979

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shit Russ, I hope everything is ok with the trans and luckily your alright. What did Mike say happened internally to the trans?
 

duratothemax

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because the suncoast tranny's shift faster (due to the transgo trim valves), it freaks the TCM out sometimes when you do a full on ABS panic stop.

When the TCM gets a data signal/speed signal from the EBCM (abs module) that an ABS event is about to occur, it (the TCM) immediately unlocks the converter and prepares to downshift as fast as possible (because the allison, of course being clutch to clutch, cant just freewheel, it actually has to downshift in a fraction of a second to prevent it from fighting the brakes). As it slams down through the gears, shifting the trim and shift valves as fast as possible, the transgo valves make things happen even faster than the TCM expects, so you get mini tie-ups/confusion on those rapid downshifts during an extended ABS event with a built transmission......

hope that explains it a bit more.

ben
 

JoshH

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Your back country roads must not be the same as what we have around here if you were going 70. Glad everything is ok.
 

TheBac

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Glad you're ok, but how about slowing down some, esp if you see a school bus up ahead?
Always try to look 8-12 seconds ahead and always be ready for the unexpected. Best advice I can give...





As for the Alli, I get some very strange downshift patterns out of my 6-spd when slowing/stopping. Hunts a lot, too. Im still not convinced its a good trans in a delivery vehicle application.
 
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70 down a back road sounds like fun.:D Did you stop and yell at the driver afterword or just kept on going?

I think the worst is when the buses stop on the highway up here to pick up the kids, they should pull into a driveway or something because I have seen many people go around them because they just hit the brakes and turn on the reds without warning. They dont even think of the truck drives behind them with 150,000 lbs.:mad:
 

12secondhandshaker

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No offense but maybe you shouldnt be driving down the back roads at 70???

Also, if its a residential area and busses are out at that time, even more reason to take another route or slow down.

No matter what did happen or could have happend, most likely you would have been at fault.

:2cents:
 

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And I suppose you guys with the 12 second trucks only use that power at the strip; never ever occasionaly on the street. Is that correct?
All of us will goose our trucks and play a little. Don't think Russ needs any lectures.;):D
 

TrentNell

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And I suppose you guys with the 12 second trucks only use that power at the strip; never ever occasionaly on the street. Is that correct?
All of us will goose our trucks and play a little. Don't think Russ needs any lectures.;):D

i would never do such a thing :cop::p:rofl:
 

TheBac

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And I suppose you guys with the 12 second trucks only use that power at the strip; never ever occasionaly on the street. Is that correct?
All of us will goose our trucks and play a little. Don't think Russ needs any lectures.;):D


oh, excuuuuuse me. Yeah, I'm known to do that occasionally in the summer, but damn...there isnt a school bus in front of me when Im doing it! :rolleyes:
Yes, the bus driver should have seen the garbage can, and not risked the kids by turning in front of traffic...but then she/he probably judged traffic to be slowing down. Anyway you look at it, it was a messed up situation.

I was just giving him some advice to always expect the unexpected, even from "professional" drivers.
 
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Mike L.

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oh, excuuuuuse me. Yeah, I'm known to do that occasionally in the summer, but damn...there isnt a school bus in front of me when Im doing it! :rolleyes:
Yes, the bus driver should have seen the garbage can, and not risked the kids by turning in front of traffic...but then she/he probably judged traffic to be slowing down. Anyway you look at it, it was a messed up situation.

I was just giving him some advice to always expect the unexpected, even from "professional" drivers.

The school bus was coming from the opposite direction when he decided to cross in front of him. IMHO the bus driver should not have been in such a hurry to make his turn with on coming traffic carrying kids. What wa his hurry?

The bus driver should know that his turn would be slow and it's very hard to judge on coming speed and should have waited till it was clear.