a rant about fuel prices

neubauej

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If somebody has a loading dock out there that a Semi truck can get to, I, or somebody else, can get a truckload out there.

51 barrels at 900lbs is 45,900 lbs, a semi can usually take up to 46,000 lbs.

At a freight rate of $1.50/mile, at 1560miles (Houston to L.A.) that is $2340 for the load.

$2340 / 51 barrels = $45.89 shipping per barrel.

On the downside, somebody would have to prepay for the fuel itself.

51 barrels at $249 is $12,700 in fuel, plus the $2340 for shipping...

Anybody have $15,040 handy?

Also, after shipping, it would come out to $5.36/gallon...

~Joe
 

SIKDMAX

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For 2-12 barrels they give a $20/barrel discount. Im sure we can work a better price if someone were to seriously purchase 51 barrels.

And a barrel should only be about 450 pounds each, not 900, assuming diesel weighs similar to water.
 

McRat

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If somebody has a loading dock out there that a Semi truck can get to, I, or somebody else, can get a truckload out there.

51 barrels at 900lbs is 45,900 lbs, a semi can usually take up to 46,000 lbs.

At a freight rate of $1.50/mile, at 1560miles (Houston to L.A.) that is $2340 for the load.

$2340 / 51 barrels = $45.89 shipping per barrel.

On the downside, somebody would have to prepay for the fuel itself.

51 barrels at $249 is $12,700 in fuel, plus the $2340 for shipping...

Anybody have $15,040 handy?

Also, after shipping, it would come out to $5.36/gallon...

~Joe

I have a 5000lb forklift and hand trucks, which gets me the "dock" freight rate.

If we can get 25 guys who will buy $600 worth of racing diesel (2 bbl) in SoCal, I can deal with the loading and unloading.
 

neubauej

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For 2-12 barrels they give a $20/barrel discount. Im sure we can work a better price if someone were to seriously purchase 51 barrels.

And a barrel should only be about 450 pounds each, not 900, assuming diesel weighs similar to water.

Well, if 450ish a barrel, you could get about 100 barrels on a truck... With a $20 discount per barrel, that overall brings the price down quit a bit.

About $23.40/barrel in shipping...

$23,000 in product cost...

When all said and done, assuming 450 lbs a barrel, same shipping, and $20 discount per barrel, the end cost would be about $4.61/gallon.

However, somebody would have to come up with about $25,400 upfront...
 

neubauej

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I have a 5000lb forklift and hand trucks, which gets me the "dock" freight rate.

If we can get 25 guys who will buy $600 worth of racing diesel (2 bbl) in SoCal, I can deal with the loading and unloading.


At a loading dock? Or at the least, a large-ish open area off-street? Cali is pretty strict against parking a Bigtruck in any street... If you are side unloading it, (from the ground with said forklift) order it on a flatbed, they can take about 50k lbs instead of only 45k-46k...
 

McRat

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PS - You do realize this is Racing Fuel only?

Because if it was to be used for highway, it would be tax evasion unless taxes were paid. You should be sure the bill of lading says racing fuel, not-for-highway-use.
 

McRat

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At a loading dock? Or at the least, a large-ish open area off-street? Cali is pretty strict against parking a Bigtruck in any street... If you are side unloading it, (from the ground with said forklift) order it on a flatbed, they can take about 50k lbs instead of only 45k-46k...

I have a business, and often unload semitrucks, this is in an industrial park. Our freight rate is "dock rate".

Yes, we often sideload.
 

neubauej

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I have a business, and often unload semitrucks, this is in an industrial park. Our freight rate is "dock rate".

That would work perfect. haz-mat shipping is a touch higher, (I'll have to check on tuesday as to how much), and the shipper usually specifies what is on the bills, however, when you order it, you could simply ask for it to be shipped as "racing fuel", or "off road only".
 

McRat

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DOH!!! I have two pallet jacks NOT hand trucks. :D

I can load and unload palletized freight all day long if need be.

I can store the fuel for 48hrs, but am not licensed for flammable storage, so I would have to get the stuff moved out over a weekend.
 

2500HeavyDuty

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doesn't someone need a haz-mat license to transport them if some one does do that?

and it wouldn't be illegal if you fill up w/ half syn diesel an half reg diesel would it?
i mean i 5 inch exhaust if perfectly legal:rolleyes: