Building a street legel pulling truck would it be worth buying a different turbo because 2.5 is the limit or should we just keep the stock one on a 07 LBZ were hoping to make close to 600 horse with water meth is this possible with the stock turbo
2.5 turbo or keep the stocker
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depending a lot on available fuel with a single CP3 IIRC they make around 40psi. For injectors... depending how much money you have available i'd say go with Guy's but Georges injectors have been fairing very well.
We can run water meth and a 2.5 turbo only thing we cant run is nitrous no limit on money this guys family is loaded, and I know the stock turbo will make 32lbs of boost I dont think 8 more will help that much will it, and what horse injecter would you run he has a FASS 150 lift pump
psi is not indicative of power... the GT4088 is much more efficient than the stock turbo. With a stroker CP3 and the GT4088 around 625-650hp is very possible. I'd Go GT4088, Guys 60% over injectors, and a Wicked Diesel CP3. I'd call Shane at Wicked Diesels tomorrow and shoot him some ideas as to what you want to do.
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I forgot to tell you we can only run one CP3
1. Must be licensed, registered, and insured (Bring CURRENT registration and insurance with you to register).
2. May be hauled to pull.
3. One 2.5 turbo only. NO bushing/reduce allowed. Must be a true 2.5” or smaller inducer. Turbo will be checked with a 2.55” plug. 08+ Ford 6.4L Power Strokes are allowed with Factory OEM Twin Turbo System.
4. All computer chips and boxes are permitted.
5. No Nitrous or Propane – All Bottles Must Be Removed.
6. Water Injection allowed, limited to a two nozzle system. Water/Meth or Boost Juice is allowed. No straight Methanol.
7. There will be under hood inspections. Top truck will be teched after each pull..
8. Rear suspension may be blocked. Blocks must be easily removed. NO WELDED REAR SUSPENSION.
9. Air bags permitted, single line must be capped, no in cab controls.
10. Tractions bars must have a safety loop or strap securely attached to frame & bars near where bars attach to frame of truck.
11. Front hanging weights are allowed, NOT to exceed 60 inches forward of the center of the front axle. NO weights in cab of truck. Total maximum weight of 8500 lbs with the driver.
12. Factory or commercially distributed aftermarket Reese type hitch. Must be horizontal to the ground and stationary in all directions. Hitch must be no less than 46” from center line of rear axle to the back of the inside of hook point. Height from ground must not exceed 26”. Minimum 3 ½-inch diameter for sled hook.
13. Hook point must be past rear of truck bed.
14. Truck must have both front and rear bumper. Roll pan is a bumper
15. No chains, studs, spikes, etc.
16. DOT street legal tires. 35” height limit. No cut tires.
17. Engine must have come stock from factory in a 1-ton pickup truck or less application. Engine does not have to be the same manufacturer as truck. (i.e. Cummins engine may be transplanted in a Ford or Chevy truck).
18. Only one injection pump, a P-pump will be allowed on a 24 valve. No Ag Pumps, No Ag Governors, No Sigma Pumps.
19. Drive train must be OEM from 1 ton or less pickup. (i.e. NO DROP BOXES OR REVERSERS).
20. Trucks with manual transmissions, running in excess of 4000 rpms must run a scatter proof blanket on the bell housing.
21. Exhaust must be directed up or down. Two, three eights inch diameter are recommended through the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern. One warning will be given on turn up or downs.
22. IT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT ALL TRUCKS HAVE SAFETY EQUIPMENT (FUEL SHUT OFFS, KILL SWITCHES, SCATTER BLANKETS, FIRE EXTINGUISHER, ETC).
23. All regular pulling members are required to have drive shaft loops and u-joint covers. Must have axle covers.
24 Diesel fuel ONLY.
1. Must be licensed, registered, and insured (Bring CURRENT registration and insurance with you to register).
2. May be hauled to pull.
3. One 2.5 turbo only. NO bushing/reduce allowed. Must be a true 2.5” or smaller inducer. Turbo will be checked with a 2.55” plug. 08+ Ford 6.4L Power Strokes are allowed with Factory OEM Twin Turbo System.
4. All computer chips and boxes are permitted.
5. No Nitrous or Propane – All Bottles Must Be Removed.
6. Water Injection allowed, limited to a two nozzle system. Water/Meth or Boost Juice is allowed. No straight Methanol.
7. There will be under hood inspections. Top truck will be teched after each pull..
8. Rear suspension may be blocked. Blocks must be easily removed. NO WELDED REAR SUSPENSION.
9. Air bags permitted, single line must be capped, no in cab controls.
10. Tractions bars must have a safety loop or strap securely attached to frame & bars near where bars attach to frame of truck.
11. Front hanging weights are allowed, NOT to exceed 60 inches forward of the center of the front axle. NO weights in cab of truck. Total maximum weight of 8500 lbs with the driver.
12. Factory or commercially distributed aftermarket Reese type hitch. Must be horizontal to the ground and stationary in all directions. Hitch must be no less than 46” from center line of rear axle to the back of the inside of hook point. Height from ground must not exceed 26”. Minimum 3 ½-inch diameter for sled hook.
13. Hook point must be past rear of truck bed.
14. Truck must have both front and rear bumper. Roll pan is a bumper
15. No chains, studs, spikes, etc.
16. DOT street legal tires. 35” height limit. No cut tires.
17. Engine must have come stock from factory in a 1-ton pickup truck or less application. Engine does not have to be the same manufacturer as truck. (i.e. Cummins engine may be transplanted in a Ford or Chevy truck).
18. Only one injection pump, a P-pump will be allowed on a 24 valve. No Ag Pumps, No Ag Governors, No Sigma Pumps.
19. Drive train must be OEM from 1 ton or less pickup. (i.e. NO DROP BOXES OR REVERSERS).
20. Trucks with manual transmissions, running in excess of 4000 rpms must run a scatter proof blanket on the bell housing.
21. Exhaust must be directed up or down. Two, three eights inch diameter are recommended through the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern. One warning will be given on turn up or downs.
22. IT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT ALL TRUCKS HAVE SAFETY EQUIPMENT (FUEL SHUT OFFS, KILL SWITCHES, SCATTER BLANKETS, FIRE EXTINGUISHER, ETC).
23. All regular pulling members are required to have drive shaft loops and u-joint covers. Must have axle covers.
24 Diesel fuel ONLY.
i am referring to a single CP3... you replace the existing one with a brand new stroked CP3 which means A L O T more fuel
i ran the 4088 for a while. loved it!! sounded mean!!! though it was obnoxiously loud, and it pulled hard! you will have to tune out limp mode and the shifting will be a little funny on a high power tune with the vvt sensors / solenoids being removed.
X100. The GT40 series are lame. You would be much happier with a nice S400. Have a cover made to make it 2.5 legal.
So how will this combo do in the street legel diesel
S400 Turbo
Sun Coast stage 4 trans with trans go jr
60 over injecters
Wicked Diesel CP3
FASS 150
EFI Live tuning
Snow Performance stage 3 water meth
Eaton Elocker for the front
Tie Rod Sleeves and Center Link
285-75-16 BFG All Terrains
Home Made Blocks, Traction Bars, and Weight Bar
S400 Turbo
Sun Coast stage 4 trans with trans go jr
60 over injecters
Wicked Diesel CP3
FASS 150
EFI Live tuning
Snow Performance stage 3 water meth
Eaton Elocker for the front
Tie Rod Sleeves and Center Link
285-75-16 BFG All Terrains
Home Made Blocks, Traction Bars, and Weight Bar
X100. The GT40 series are lame. You would be much happier with a nice S400. Have a cover made to make it 2.5 legal.
These guys are speaking the troof!
GT4088 is a very good charger and has been proven on the track time and again. Although, you could have a fully custom S400, totally duded out trick charger that would be legal for the price of the GT40.
I'll get Ecc in here, he pulled with the 4088 for 2 seasons. He just changed to a forced inductions custom and says it is miles ahead of the Garrett.
The red clay tracks here are like asphalt a there is a dmax that pulls here alot and he has some big tires on his truck and it toes in really bad at the top but whenever he pulls they kinda of straightin out
Ok thanks let me know what he says were just trying to be very competitive and just trying to do stuff right the first time
x3 on a custom s400 airwerks. They are nice turbos (make sure you feed the oil off the side of the block).
If you have unlimited funds heck build the motor up, add some Pro-flows, a Wicked Pump some big sticks and your custom charger. You can do a lot with a 2.5 turbo if everything is setup right.
If you have unlimited funds heck build the motor up, add some Pro-flows, a Wicked Pump some big sticks and your custom charger. You can do a lot with a 2.5 turbo if everything is setup right.
Yea the 4088r is really lame for the cash it costs. I don't care what you do. You wont get more than 40psi out of it. A custom s400 with a 2.5 compressor housing is def the way to go. If theres no budget. Ditch the 3.73 gears and put in some 4.56's to run 4th gear in the tranny. I doubt there will be many trucks that will touch it