I think the 6 bolt is still the way to go.
If it's just a seal leaking, replace said seal and keep using it. Taking it apart, it may never be the same.
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If it's just a seal leaking, replace said seal and keep using it. Taking it apart, it may never be the same.
Amazon box
Can anyone tell me what the difference might be between this one box and the card one box?
Part number is the same but with an S at the end. Just some Chinese knock off with a similar part number to fool us?
Can anyone tell me what the difference might be between this one box and the card one box?
Part number is the same but with an S at the end. Just some Chinese knock off with a similar part number to fool us?
Looks like the proper PN. I've been buying them from RockAuto so I cannot confirm if the Amazon link will deliver a 6 bolt box.
Brad, have you gotten a six bolt box from RA recently? My Amazon order this week yielded a 2007-2010 style four bolt box from Cardone/Modulus.
According to Fisher, the S stands for suoerceded.
I bought one a month or so ago without an issue and did get a 6 bolt box.
I do not, sorry. We only stock a few for jobs at our facility.
To be clear, it was Cardone 978418GB or some other? Cardone has different boxes that they list for 01-07 and 07-10. Want to make sure we are talking about the same.
Yes it is the 978418GB PN as referenced in this thread on quite a few pages. I don't order them by fitment, I order off of PN alone.
Thanks for verifying. The 97-8418 seems mostly out of stock right now across the US. Summit. Rock Auto. NAPA. Federated.
Amazon has a few. Two have shown up as four bolt boxes, which is why I asked. Thank you for verifying. I'm giving up after the third. It seems the 97-8418 six bolt box might no longer be a thing. 97-8418 printed on the end of a Modulus / Cardone box. Four bolt 2007.5-2010 style gear inside.
They are likely still suffering the same issue we documented before. China put the reman part in boxes with new Part label on them. We notified NAPA of the issue and it fell on deaf ears. We also notified RockAuto. It took awhile to get them to listen and understand what was happening but they notified all there warehouse's and pulled inventory.
PSC is the same 6 bolt box that comes from China. Now they claim to go through them and test them to make sure they meet there standard. Could be why they are able to claim made in the USA. At any rate they only want to stock 1 part and chose the 4 Bolt variant. Likely because of the 1500 Crowd that like's to make prerunners or 4 wheelers out of there trucks.
PSC is the same 6 bolt box that comes from China. Now they claim to go through them and test them to make sure they meet there standard. Could be why they are able to claim made in the USA. At any rate they only want to stock 1 part and chose the 4 Bolt variant. Likely because of the 1500 Crowd that like's to make prerunners or 4 wheelers out of there trucks.
I don't really mind buying another pitman arm if I have a good box to put it on. Moog HDs are $60 in 3 or 4 spline and do the job fine.
The four bolt 2007.5-2010 style gears (yes, plural) I have received (Modulus 97-8414) don't look reman. The paint job is pretty shoddy but the sector and worm shaft ends look new. There's still an unacceptable amount of slop in the boxes, but I don't think that means Cardone is substituting rebuilds for new China imports.
I suspect the importer has discovered there are multiple boxes that fit a wide variety of trucks as long as they have the right input, output, and hydraulic connections...just as we have. We're after it to get an improved box but they're build whichever they have parts for or can make lowest cost. I imagine they aren't too picky about ratio or valving. If it fits, it ships. You've got the Saginaw 700/800/808 style, the Saginaw 84 style, the Delphi 4-bolt smiley face cover (2007.5-2010 style), and the Delphi 6 bolt cover.
The four bolt 2007.5-2010 style gears (yes, plural) I have received (Modulus 97-8414) don't look reman. The paint job is pretty shoddy but the sector and worm shaft ends look new. There's still an unacceptable amount of slop in the boxes, but I don't think that means Cardone is substituting rebuilds for new China imports.
I suspect the importer has discovered there are multiple boxes that fit a wide variety of trucks as long as they have the right input, output, and hydraulic connections...just as we have. We're after it to get an improved box but they're build whichever they have parts for or can make lowest cost. I imagine they aren't too picky about ratio or valving. If it fits, it ships. You've got the Saginaw 700/800/808 style, the Saginaw 84 style, the Delphi 4-bolt smiley face cover (2007.5-2010 style), and the Delphi 6 bolt cover.
I have never received a 4 bolt box from Rock Auto under than PN, only the proper 6 bolt box and I've had great luck with them.
I cannot comment on any other retailer. I did buy 2 of the EBay boxes that were 6 bolt in the images but received 4 bolt boxes. As such, I would not recommend buying from there.
I cannot comment on any other retailer. I did buy 2 of the EBay boxes that were 6 bolt in the images but received 4 bolt boxes. As such, I would not recommend buying from there.
Unfortunately, RA presently is out of stock.
Summit got verification from Cardone 97-8418GB would/should be a six bolt box, but out of stock until July.
Perhaps the bottom line is that the 97-8418GBS (available) is a new four bolt smiley face box, 97-8418GB (not shown in stock anywhere presently) is the six. Not enough data points to truly confirm. Summit lists them both with different price and availability, despite same photo of a six bolt box for each.
Summit got verification from Cardone 97-8418GB would/should be a six bolt box, but out of stock until July.
Perhaps the bottom line is that the 97-8418GBS (available) is a new four bolt smiley face box, 97-8418GB (not shown in stock anywhere presently) is the six. Not enough data points to truly confirm. Summit lists them both with different price and availability, despite same photo of a six bolt box for each.
I was able to order a Cardone 978418GB off Rock Auto last week Thursday and it came this weekend. It is a 6 bolt like the image showed on their site for anyone else looking
You got lucky. As soon I saw this, I hopped right on rock auto and it's still showing me out of stock.
FWIW, the Cardone 97-8418GB is beginning to pop up on ebay. I assume this means the boat from China has been unloaded. Dustin has promised boxes available soon and is compiling a waitlist. If I were in the market I'd call my local Federated/Fisher Auto Parts, keep an eye on Amazon, Summit, Rock Auto, etc.
FWIW, we replaced our truck. The new one (sadly) isn't a GM, has a six bolt box, and has a discernable amount of play in the gear...
FWIW, we replaced our truck. The new one (sadly) isn't a GM, has a six bolt box, and has a discernable amount of play in the gear...
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From what I've seen Dustin post on a couple Bookface pages I assumed he had some in stock already
Fwiw, I don’t think Minworx is going to be a reliable solution either. He was making me a box by the end of the week or early the next, on May 1st. June 20th I was top of the list and to be done in the next couple of days. It’s July 12 today; no word. So, it may end up that I eventually get his box and love it, but if you are in need of something in a relatively short timeframe, I don’t think it’s going to be your best bet.