Here's a letter I received from GM.
Imagine how much it cost to engineer and develop all of this, much of it per government mandate:
Imagine how much it cost to engineer and develop all of this, much of it per government mandate:
Why GM is struggling?
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Man, I wish I kept the email Larry sent me the other day listing how hard some of those workers are working....The workers union has GM (and all others) strapped pretty good right now!
Too many product lines, That's why GM is struggling. Saturn is it's own thing, but kill Buick and Pontiac. Make ALL trucks GMC, all passenger cars/crossovers Chevrolet, and all luxury cars Cadillac. You want a Pontiac GTO, sell it in the Chevy dealership, you want a Buick Electra 225, sell it at the Chevy dealer. Too much ovelap. They finally killed Oldsmobile. Keep up that stradegy, it works.
That's my .$02
That's my .$02
Too many product lines, That's why GM is struggling. Saturn is it's own thing, but kill Buick and Pontiac. Make ALL trucks GMC, all passenger cars/crossovers Chevrolet, and all luxury cars Cadillac. You want a Pontiac GTO, sell it in the Chevy dealership, you want a Buick Electra 225, sell it at the Chevy dealer. Too much ovelap. They finally killed Oldsmobile. Keep up that stradegy, it works.
That's my .$02
Disagree. Chevy Truck's would be the last thing GM cuts...
It would make more sense to drop GMC. The three brands would be Cadillac, Chevrolet & Saturn. GMC no longer makes medium or heavy duty trucks so why keep it...
My .02
Rob
Fine, drop GMC, but shrink the product line and keep profits up. Databases will become smaller too, one part, one part number instead of one part, 5 part numbers.
FWIW...
Current Pickup Sales of 2008:
Chevy: 370,502
GMC: 133,811
It still love both, being their both GM. I would hate to see either one of them go
Current Pickup Sales of 2008:
Chevy: 370,502
GMC: 133,811
It still love both, being their both GM. I would hate to see either one of them go
Realistically, it will take at least 5 years to "debrand" GM. They have contracts with the dealerships, so if the dealership is still profitable, it could cost $$$ to drop them.
GM started in the 1970's to get ready for debranding by doing a Corporate Powertrain system where Pontiac, Buick, Olds, GMC, started shutting down their engine factories.
GM started in the 1970's to get ready for debranding by doing a Corporate Powertrain system where Pontiac, Buick, Olds, GMC, started shutting down their engine factories.
I've wondered if it wouldn't behoove GM to buy out the "problem" dealers and make them company stores. Lotta times the rogue dealers really hurt the image of the manufacturer.
This has been a trend in the heavy construction equipment over the last 5-10 years.
This has been a trend in the heavy construction equipment over the last 5-10 years.
GMC_2002_Dmax
The Still Master
Because the CHEVY front end is ugly as hell since 2003..........
GMC is a much better looking front end.
Because the CHEVY front end is ugly as hell since 2003..........
GMC is a much better looking front end.
And the TRUTH shall set you Freeeee.
I don't think the split is really costing them much. It's probably making them some money. Pontiac caters to agressive styled sporty lookin cars. Saturn caters to the greenies. Chevrolet caters to the fleet and classic design and Cadillac to the upscale, stylish (sometimes) with creature comforts.
Chevrolet trucks are usually more likely to be fleet/work vehicles than GMC's. GMC is 'professional grade' with some additional towing gadgets and creature comforts.
Sure they could merge them and call all the pontiacs chevrolets, but they still have to build that style to get that market. It's pretty smooth now that so many cars from GM are actually the same car across brands. The only things that are differently usually are the bumpers and the branding and maybe the front fenders....
Chevrolet trucks are usually more likely to be fleet/work vehicles than GMC's. GMC is 'professional grade' with some additional towing gadgets and creature comforts.
Sure they could merge them and call all the pontiacs chevrolets, but they still have to build that style to get that market. It's pretty smooth now that so many cars from GM are actually the same car across brands. The only things that are differently usually are the bumpers and the branding and maybe the front fenders....
Drop Ford completely and GM and Chrysler will do much better, so would we
Ford is the most healthy of the Big3...they even declined to take the gov. loans.
Things are far from perfect for them....but they'll be the last to go if the unthinkable happens.
Something I don't understand is in the 80's body part were all interchangeable from GMC to chevy trucks 1500's-3500's now they have to have two different machine to stamp out the fenders for the chevy and the GMC, it was just different grilles. they should go back to this concept. Ford really screwed up having a totally different truck from the 150 to the 250,and 350.
Ford has screwed up alot! :rofl:
As for the body styles. I love the 01 & 02 HD Chevy's myself. But, I have to say the "Classic" HD series is my favorite.