What options are out there?

AKlowriderZ71

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Recently I drove from Alaska to Wyoming. We moved our home & shop, so the truck was loaded heavy, and the trailer was too. Overall I'm actually surprised at how well the truck handled the task. I estimate that my total combined weight was around 25k.

But on long steep down grades, 6-8%, it was hard to keep at a reasonable speed. Starting out at 45 mph at the top of the hill, using the brakes pretty hard until the bottom, the speeds were sometimes 75-85 mph at the bottom. And if you've driven this route before, you know that there are often sharp turns at the bottom of these grades. A "white-knuckle ride" for me anyhow.

I was using the tow/haul mode & trailer brakes. But the brakes got pretty damn hot. Stinking & squealing, etc. The trans braking helped obviously, but it just wasn't enough for the weight I was rolling. What are the options I have, for keeping this thing under control on long grades? The truck is in my sig, a 2001 ECSB LB7, mostly stock.
 

gmduramax

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What rpm was the engine revving to?
Trying to keep that much weight under control you should have seen 4500rpm, if not you can try manually downshifting.
 

AKlowriderZ71

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The truck brakes, and the trailer brakes both. Nothing was really severe, but I was using a lot more brake than I wanted to, and the speeds were faster than I wanted to be going. The brakes did all return to normal after a short cool down.

IIRC, the trans shifted down enough that the engine rpm was over 4000, but I couldn't tell you the exact rpm. Everything was working as designed, I just want another way of keeping speed under control besides beating the piss out of my brakes.

Is an exhaust brake the answer? How & where does it install? Is it a PITA?
 

ALLY Fox

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Do you have a tow tune with a turbo brake? My tune does, although I sometimes see 4000+ RPMs and have to use some brake now and then with 12K+ trailer. Check with SS to see what they can do first.
 

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There is no way to get a "turbo brake" on an LB7 unless you swap in a later model turbo. A traditional butterfly style exhaust brake would really help you slow down on steep grades, especially with the downshifting. You might not even have to touch the brake pedal. I've installed a few PacBrake exhaust brakes on some Dodges, and they work really well.
 

Cknight199

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The lb7's utilize a non vvt turbo, to have an exhaust (turbo) brake you must have a vvt turbo to move the Vanes.

Easiest and best solution would be to get an exhaust brake, or upgrade to a new(er) truck :D
 

radvans

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If you were at those speeds you have to be in 4th I'd think.

I tow that weight and have no issues keeping 55mph in 3rd on grades like that with minimal braking. ROMs between 3500-4000.
 

AKlowriderZ71

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It definately got down into 3rd. I moniter the gear and TCC on my CTS.

I'll need to do some digging on the differences between the exhaust brake kits out there. Any info you guys can give me would be helpful. My initial look at them, they all seem the same to me.