What 4" Lift for LMM?

duramaxdiesel

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So I think I'm going to buy a LMM by the end of the week. I'll be working with the truck so I don't want a 6" lift like I have on my LB7. 4" is what I'd like. What are my options? Will a 35" tire work? Also, pics would be nice to see if at all possible.

Thanks!


Nick
 

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Do a search - lots of info on lifts here. One word of advice stay away from Trail Disaster (master).
I'd suggest Cognito or RCD. I have had good luck with my Fabtech.
 

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Yeah I wanted to try the search function but it doesn't seem to work on my iPhone.

What 4" do you have? I've looked at the Zone lifts but didn't see a 4" kit.

Thanks for the info guys:hug:

Nick
 

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I love my Cognito 4/6" NTBD, so it would be my first recommendation. It's also a relatively simple install being that there is no fabrication needed what so ever. Also has a very clean look to it with the torsion bars staying tucked up in the factory location. Also the quality of the Cognito lift, IMO, is second to none.

The Zone is a great lift for the money, I think they can be had for 1200-1300 with shocks. So you could get the Zone and lower it down for great geometry up front, and it also comes with the BDS lifetime warranty.
 

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The Cognito does look like a nice kit. Pretty pricey too. I've seen kits advertised as NTBD, what exactly does that mean?

Was also looking at the Rancho 4". Anyone here running it?


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The Cognito does look like a nice kit. Pretty pricey too. I've seen kits advertised as NTBD, what exactly does that mean?

Was also looking at the Rancho 4". Anyone here running it?

Im pretty sure that's what whitelmmmax is running. ntbd is no torson bar drop. alota guys are running 6in lifts lowering then down to 4in.
 

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The Cognito does look like a nice kit. Pretty pricey too. I've seen kits advertised as NTBD, what exactly does that mean?

Was also looking at the Rancho 4". Anyone here running it?


Nick

As LBZ said, it is a non-torsion bar drop lift. It comes with some brackets to keep the torsion bars tucked up in the stock location.
 

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Thanks for clearing that up guys:thumb: I might jump on the Rancho lift seeing as they have a pretty decent sale going on now. But I'm still looking at the Cognito. I looked at their website and it looks like it isn't a complete "kit".

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Thanks for clearing that up guys:thumb: I might jump on the Rancho lift seeing as they have a pretty decent sale going on now. But I'm still looking at the Cognito. I looked at their website and it looks like it isn't a complete "kit".

Nick

It's not, it is just the front box kit. Then you need the rear block, or in my case I went with the DEAVER mini pack they were 400, and to utilize 4x4 effectively, you also need a front driveline for 550. And the NTBD(no torsion bar drop) is another $$$ option, like 350, add these to the advertised price of the front box kit, then you have a complete lift

The good side of cognito... Everything is super stout, nothing is cast it's all welded plate steel, the front lift kit only uses a 1/4" spacer to extend out the c/v axle so you don't loose hardly any of your turning radius(i can hardly notice it) and the ride and tire wear is really good, you get the pitman and idler arm brace parts and the HD sway bar end links standard, and I would upgrade the idler pivot assembly while you're at it as well. You can find better tie rods than what cognito offers, IMO.

FYI- With any 4" kit you will have to trim pretty good to fit 35x12.5 tires. And the more the kit pushes the front tires out, the more you will be trimming. Iirc, the rancho kit moves each side out over an inch! So look into that before you pull the trigger, there is alot more to consider than just price.

One thing to note as well, kits that retain the stock location for the front diff and front driveshaft may be better for 1/4 mile duty, that is the only thing I have not liked about the cognito 4" kit, it dropped the front diff down, which is why you need a new front driveline with compounded u-joints to accommodate for the added angle, and now I have a high speed vibration I am convinced is related to the driveline configuration.

Here's my truck with the cognito 4" 18x10 wheels with 4.5 bs and a -12 os with 285/75/18(35x11.5) and I had to trim a bit to fit them, but my c/v angles are flat, the kit is set at 4"
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You don't need a new front drive shaft for a 4" lift..

Brian, you are wrong.

You do need it if and when the front diff is dropped, like in the cognito kit. If you want to go over 20mph in 4x4, but if you are happy with crawling around at turtle speed, no, you dont
 

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Isn't that nice for Steve..
Is he using an aftermarket front drive shaft, or did he retain the stock one?

I have wondered if the drive shaft I have is not properly balanced, but I just defaulted to the idea that it was the angle and double joint
 

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he is obviously going off norcal truck's site, which recommends new shafts. but they arent needed. obviously they are stronger because they eliminate the chance of wobble, but every other kit out their uses spacers, and they have been tried and true for a while now on all lift kit brands.
 

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Ive lifted tons of trucks for customers. Never used a driveshaft on a 4in lift. Only on 6in+ lifts. But i would also say, if the bars are turned, a dual cardon shaft isnt a bad idea. But in most cases not needed.