Help: Truck dying

2003dmax6701

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I have a 2003 duramax I have put a Injection Pump in. It idle good. I start to drive it and it dies. It act like it running out of fuel. but i can start it back up it take longer then normal. I changed the fuel pressure regulator already. I have no codes. not sure want else it could be.
 

dordtrecht5

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Air. Sounds like it's getting air into fuel system somewhere. Loosen the bleeder on top of the filter housing and prime it to see if it bubbles. I had the same thing happen to me when my lift pump went out. Even if it isn't leaking, it could possibly be pulling air in somewhere.


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brnyrdanimal

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Hi all, newB to the board, but I wanted to jump in on this one. I think 2003dmax6701 and I may be having the same/similar problem and I hope we can help each other. I've been told it's my CP3, but I don't think it fits, I should see other symptoms. I also have no codes. There is no smoke. I've got a 2003 as stock as stock gets with about 122k, had it a little over 2 years. There is no hard start, cold, hot, sitting for 2 days, fires right up. Idle is perfect, there is full power off the line, until you load it up over time. It is very predictable and repeatable when the problem occurs. Starting from a stop up a long medium grade, there's plenty of power, and you hold the throttle at a steady position, about 1/3 mile up the grade it feels like you dropped your foot off the pedal. Pump the throttle, no response, let it idle for 15-20 seconds (by then you're about stopped on the hill) and it has plenty of power to keep going. If you stay in the throttle when it loses power, it will cough and sputter and die. Only light on the dash is the batt light when it finally dies. Then it's a long hard start. First thought, air in the line, I pulled apart the primer pump and the seals looked and felt rough, so I ordered a filter head rebuild kit (AP0029, I believe there's vendors on this board with similar, could probably get it to you faster...). I lubed the seals with 90W, put it back together, then it wouldn't even prime, couldn't get the truck to crank. I thought I had it, but waited almost a week (guess how easy it is to hitch a ride to work at 4:30AM?), rebuilt the pump and when priming it shot fuel to the radiator. As long as I've owned this truck it always just trickled out the bleeder when I changed filters. Also changed the fuel line in/out of the filter housing (about 18" of 1/2" fuel hose). Back on the road, same problem, no better, no worse. Turns out I fixed A problem, but not THE problem. My truck runs great as long as I don't go too fast or uphill. 2003dmax, the trick is the fuel system is under a vacuum, so a small leak will not spill fuel, it will suck air. Just order the seals BEFORE you pull apart the primer pump the check them if you go that route next.... new seals are $15-30, new pump/housing is $600, it's easy to rebuild. I don't think the '03 has a lift pump, someone correct me if I'm wrong. I put a hand pump on the fuel filter drain with it closed, pulled and held ~20" vacuum, so it doesn't appear to be leaking, but found a new one for $17 and got it on the way, kinda grasping to make it to work at this point...
 

brnyrdanimal

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Oh, and fuel filter had about 1900 miles on it when the problem first happened a few weeks ago, ran the tank almost empty, topped off with 25.3 gallons, changed fuel filter, no change. Level in the tank and outside temperature have no effect, running the a/c makes it happen sooner.
 

Burn Down

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Well it sounds like you have checked the small things... However you could hook a cheap lift pump up back by the fuel tank. The fuel will find it's way out under pressure, if there is a leak...

You are going to need access to Efi Live or a tech 2 to troubleshoot the fuel system.

Need to ramp up rail pressure at idle and see if desired & actual match. Next check out the balance rates. Finally return rates on the injectors.

Have the injectors ever been replaced on your LB7?

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2003dmax6701

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brnyrdanimal and Burn Down My injection pump went out I changed it. I have put injectors in my truck. Thanks for the info I will try that. i was getting a air dog for my truck. I have a bank 6gun tuner. I think im going to change to EFI Live.
 

brnyrdanimal

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Still having a little trouble getting my hands on a tech 2, the only guy in the area I've found yet has a week backlog and you're not in line unless your truck's sitting at his shop. Would be back to finding a ride to work at 4:30AM... Is there a standard fitting that will connect to that schrader valve on the P/S valve cover? I think a vacuum reading there would be extremely helpful, but i'm not sure how to hook into it.

I have not changed the injectors, but I bought the truck with 92K on it, so no telling what happened during that. I have not explored that option yet because I have yet to find anyone with injector problems that did not come with smoke, starting problems, or fuel in the oil. I have had none of these.

Thanks for chiming in, as soon as I can get ahold of someone with a tech 2, I'll put up some results and hopefully it'll be straight forward. The lift pump thought gives me some ideas to try if there is a leak, hopefully i'll have a little time off work this weekend to try it...
 

PhilsLB7

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Request a VIN check under VIN Check and TSB's. It will tell you if the injectors were replaced by the dealer or not and any other warranty work that was done to the truck.

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Kspen90

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just throwing this out there but a friend of mines was doing just about the same thing and he had an injector stuck open that was draining the rail and causing air in the line.
 

2003dmax6701

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Took it to GM to get them to check that. They said they where good. You can watch the plunger on the filter head suck down until it dies out.