torsion bar chain ratings?

lotsofmiles

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The last 3 trailers I've tried to use my weight distribution setup on I haven't been able to. Its like they are making the top of the frame rail higher in relation to the coupler.

the chains on my torsion bars just arent long enough.

got a 30 some foot trailer hooked up now that I would like to have the bars hooked up to.

went to Tractor Supply today, and the setup they had didnt say the weight rating of the chains.

Does anyone know how much weight the torsion bar chains are supposed to be rated for?
 

FMOS

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I'm going to take a wild and arbitrary guess that the individual chains wouldn't see more than a max of about 1000lbs force of tension...

What kind of chain do you have, welded or non welded? Most likely its welded. On the chain somewhere there should be some identification markings, they will be raised letters. There should be a number of some sort... 3, 4, 7, 8, 10... or some variations of that. Like it could be a 3 or it could be a 30 or a 300... but those will all mean the same thing.

Now, any chain that fits the application your using it for is going to fall into one a few categories... it doesn't really matter which one.

The shittiest chain you could possibly have is 1/8" grade 30 which is good for about 400 lbs of directly loaded force on an undamaged chain.

What size chain is it(thickness)?

Grade 70 carbon steel chain is one of the most common for use in transportation, load hold downs etc. Things like boomers would use this kind of chain. 1/4" chain of this type is good for around 3200 lbs in an undamaged and directly loaded situation.

And these weight ratings are working load ratings. Meaning you could run these chains all day long at those load ratings. They probably wouldn't snap until extremely higher numbers... like 15000 lbs. But good thing to keep it mind is that any momentum will build up force very quickly. They say the average 200lb guy that falls 6' can exert over 6000lbs of force on a tie off point. So if your using the chains for tugging, you'll want the heaviest duty you can get:D Haha There are other products that work much better for those applications though.


So, if I were to answer your question directly. I would say use grade 70 chain of the largest diameter that will still fit into your torsion bar unit. If your buying new stuff, the grade and manufactuer symbol should be on the links in raised letters... probably atleast one every 10 links I would guess. Should have a 7, 70 or 700 on it.

As a QA guy, I would probably want to make sure your getting quality material... as in, the symbol and grade is there and the symbol is legit and from a reputable company. Also, there would probably be material specs with the "lot" of chain. Like a mill test report for the metal used and other documentation.
 

lotsofmiles

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thank for the info.

the chains are what came with the bars, a reese setup. I think I'm going to pull the chains off, they bolt on to the bars, and go to Tractor Supply today and get some longer pieces of at least the same strength or better.

I'll look for numbers on it.

I'm thinking 5000 lb chain will be big enough, but I've been wrong before...
 

malibu795

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thank for the info.

the chains are what came with the bars, a reese setup. I think I'm going to pull the chains off, they bolt on to the bars, and go to Tractor Supply today and get some longer pieces of at least the same strength or better.

I'll look for numbers on it.

I'm thinking 5000 lb chain will be big enough, but I've been wrong before...

they have High Test chains i have 3/8s and they are rated for 5500lb working.

i have seen TSC and lowes carry high test 3/8 that were rated for 6600lb
 

ripmf666

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I need to find a place that sells just the plates for the trailer frame, I have the hitch and the bars also would need the chain.
 

lotsofmiles

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I need to find a place that sells just the plates for the trailer frame, I have the hitch and the bars also would need the chain.

etrailer should have them.

edit : http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WDSP~6637.htm these look like mine, bolt thru the back so I can clamp them on and take them off, or you screw into trailer frame
I think I saw a thread in here that said if you type in durmaxdiesels.com in the coupon code you get 7% off ????


Tractor supply had some chain, but I busted one of the ubolts taking the chain off and the didnt have any ubolts...

My bars are rated at 750lb, I'm thinking 5000lb chain would be good enough.


edit #2: http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WDSP~55630.htm is what I need only with a couple extra links.

Is 8/0 the weight / strength of the chain?
 
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ripmf666

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The bar setup I have was free lol.The name of it started with a T have to look at label again. the bars I have look like the ones you posted with u bolts but there is no chain and now frame brackets so the ones you posted looks like they will work, I am hoping I can tow my truck on my trail with these bars and bags in are 02 5.3 suburban 1500 with 4.10 rear gears night need a little efi live help for power lol. think we can get truck down to 6,000 with just the truck and the trailer is around 2,500 lbs
 

dmaxfireman

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i have a 12,000 / 1,200 equal-i-zer and its fantastic! just bars, no chains.

except when you have a trailer with propane tanks or a welded on plate over the tongue stopping you from bolting the brackets to the frame rails. i had a couple trailers i was frequently moving that i drilled and tapped the channels so i could bolt right to them.
 

FMOS

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Dmax fireman... I've used that type before, they aren't bad. but if I recall right, when your turning they made super loud clunking creaking and groaning noise.

I still like the chain style. Easy use of a crow bar. And there is a bit more variability as far as which chain link you want to throw in the bracket to put a certain amount of load into the setup. Light trailer, don't want as much. heavy trailer you can tighten it up.

Lotsofmiles - Thats most likely the grade of chain... grade 80. Are they raised letters?

The "high test" stuff is good. Generally its the alloy stuff. So a grade 80 is good for whatever and the "high test" is basically an alloyed grade 80 that has higher load rating and better corrosion resistance.
 

dmaxfireman

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i got it mostly for sway control, yeah the first time i used them they creaked like crazy!! used some high temp grease (just cause it seemed stickier) everywhere the bars contacted and they were quiet for about 2000 miles then i needed to regrease.

the frame brackets themselves are adjustable to change where the bars rest, much more of a pain to adjust than the links on the chain but the sway control with that setup is amazing compared to chains.