I thought I remembered a thread a while back about someone found some or made some or something, but I can't find it now. I think it was Ben that started a thread, but my searches have turned up nothing. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Stock turbo V-band
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Is it for the exhaust or on the intake mouth Josh. If it was the mouth it was Paul and I think I locked that thread down awhile back. Its a off sized v band.
I have a pile of them here. I believe it's Cummins part #3535399.
I also have a local machine shop that makes me mild steel v-band flanges for the inlet to match.
They are both fairly common parts people use on their Cummins twins, and incidentally a nice improvement for the inlet side for us running the stock LLY / LBZ / LMM turbos. :thumb:
I also have a local machine shop that makes me mild steel v-band flanges for the inlet to match.
They are both fairly common parts people use on their Cummins twins, and incidentally a nice improvement for the inlet side for us running the stock LLY / LBZ / LMM turbos. :thumb:
You mean carl tetraults machine shop that makes them for him, and you just get them from carl after stealing my idea?
(wait let me predict your lie/answer "ummm no...I have my own machine shop near me making similar flanges, but they're better")
Good thing I was the one who figured out that that flange worked. :thumb:
(wait let me predict your lie/answer "ummm no...I have my own machine shop near me making similar flanges, but they're better")
Good thing I was the one who figured out that that flange worked. :thumb:
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Guys its not a special mouthpiece or anything...all it is is just a metal flange the same size of the stock LLY-LBZ-LMM turbo inlet.
it is a handy piece for sure, im kind of surprised the big name twin manufacturers didnt think of it first, but then again, how would you then earn your pay Ben? :hug::joker:
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No, I have a local machine shop that make mine. Why would I buy them from Carl, and have to deal with shipping when there's a local company, that does make them "better" for more applications (see below), cheaper, and no shipping. Holy cow there's more than one machine in the world that can make them, OMGZ?!?!?!? It's a freaking disc, with a hole cut through it, a bevel on the outer lip, and a relief cut into it, it's not freaking rocket science.
I got my original one from Carl the day we were up there. When I swapped to the LMM turbo/480/new turbo placement, I had a new one machined with the relief to clear the casting that protrudes from the v-band face on the compressor cover. There was no "idea" stolen nor is it a new idea by any means. Ben, it's a god damn V-band flange, the factory was that way. People have been making and milling them for years I had an aluminum mouth piece before this mild steel one (and Paul has been doing this for YEARS). A different material (mild steel) makes it "your idea"? Hell I was the one that asked about the clamp itself and got that part number from him, but I don't go whining saying I was the only one that could have "that idea" to put a normal factory clamp there (because I'm not the only one or first). I had been planning on doing a mild steel mouthpiece from the day I put that aluminum one on because I wasn't impressed with the fit and hated the O-ring. Just because Carl happened to have a flange on the shelf that was "right" (LLY/LBZ for the one I got from him) doesn't make it a crazy discovery nor innovative. Like I said, there's other people out there that can come up with a simple ideas just as well as you can. This isn't and wasn't a new idea come up by you, nor were you the only one thinking it, and nor were the the first to try it (if you even have???).
Seriously grow up dude.
Guy asked a technical question, I answered it. I wasn't claiming any fame for any idea, or part, etc. Cut your drama BS out and stop attacking me in threads. This is the exact reason I haven't been posting any of my tech on the forums as I know you will just come in the thread and verbally spew your doodee all over it. I would post more tech that people could use but the reason I don't is because of you. Try being productive and add tech to threads and less of your crying and whining.Yep very handy, there are others making these pieces. It's probably not really worth just making them because there would be tons of versions that would have to be made depending on the motor model, piping size, V-band or silicone connection, twins or single turbo, etc. It would be a lot to have in stock to be able to ship immediately, chances are there would be some that aren't popular and would just sit on shelves, and being so many variations and criteria to get the customer the right one that works chances are you would get lots of time consuming, tire kicking calls, and probably some sold that don't fit due to customer error (LLY/LBZ confusion etc). It would probably be a pain in the balls. Much more profitable products to be made for sure for less work and less time. Custom build for locals so fitment is guaranteed, sure could be worth offering the service. To send out in the mail and hope they told you all the details correctly, probably not worth it. The one on my truck cost me ~$50 to build including the tubing, flange, and factory Cummins clamp. I brought my stock mouthpiece to the local machine shop, they said sure they can make the flange, went back after lunch, handed them $5, and both parties were happy. I am sure there's plenty of machine shops people could walk in and have a similar experience. You have to also remember that not all products and manufacturers/companies are on the internet (forum, webpage, or customer wise :thumb
. For some people the internet is profitable, but a lot of the time it's the "local" population that's the money maker.I am sure Trent (EPR), MPI, II, etc make them. Ben definitely isn't the first to think of this "idea". They probably just don't advertise them separate. It's more profitable to sell a whole kit and almost guaranteed to fit.
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They aren't anything complicated, I've cut a dozen or so on the lathe and added an o-ring groove. This way I can weld tubing to it to make my own mouthpieces. I'm sure Trent could hook you guys up with what he has since he pays to sell here.
Yep exactly. That's all the local machine shop does for me. Lathe is all you need to make one, and it can be a small lathe at that. I had an o-ring groove on my first aluminum mouth piece, but I have been using Ultra Black RTV sealant instead lately and no o-ring groove. Also agree, I am sure Trent builds them and I think I saw where someone had asked about buying individual pieces and he had said yes?
I have had them built , and have spun up my own ( depending on work load) I don't sell them separate, but have a few times to help out .
Ill cut my drama in threads if you cut your drama with attacking me and spewing complete lies about me and my business to potential customers of mine via PM's you GD shallow worm. You cant even call me out in the open you weak SOB, need to go sneak around via PM's? And you're telling me to grow up.
Im done in this thread.
I talked to my guys doing my local machine work and they said they would take $5 per flange from anyone (not a special deal or anything for me). Not sure if it's OK for me to post their info/contact on here? I am assuming it isn't as they aren't a paying vendor. I don't know how to correctly convey how for people to get them without pissing off vendors on here...