Rod prices
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Real reason: Lack of manufacturers so they can gouge you for whatever you want. Look at any number of aftermarket rods for any other type of motor and do a cost comparison. Most of all: People are willing to pay it.
Reasons people have discussed before: manufacturing cost, raw material costs, R&D costs...well after as many years in the business as some of these companies have been you'd figure most of that overhead has been paid for.....
Think of it this way if you're one of ~5 aftermarket rod manufacturers and you know people have a hard time getting ahold of 2 or 3 of those producers and your company is one of the 2 that people can get ahold of you can charge whatever the **** you want. Why wouldn't you it's the perfect business model...monopolize the market and charge exorbitant prices that people will pay...make **** loads of money and be happy.
Reasons people have discussed before: manufacturing cost, raw material costs, R&D costs...well after as many years in the business as some of these companies have been you'd figure most of that overhead has been paid for.....
Think of it this way if you're one of ~5 aftermarket rod manufacturers and you know people have a hard time getting ahold of 2 or 3 of those producers and your company is one of the 2 that people can get ahold of you can charge whatever the **** you want. Why wouldn't you it's the perfect business model...monopolize the market and charge exorbitant prices that people will pay...make **** loads of money and be happy.
1) Supply and demand. It's not the same sized market as SBC/BBC/SBF, or even BBF.
2) Size and weight. Our rods are very large and heavy, which requires more metal, and more machining.
If it's any condolence, Cummins and Powerstroke aftermarket rods aren't any cheaper.
Wade Moody is hyping aluminum rods, which can be substantially cheaper. But the jury is still out on how well they work in daily drivers. I would be cautious. The amount of money you save doesn't come close to what a rod failure will cost you.
DuramaxTuner tried to put $1750 rods on the market by cutting corners, but they proved to be no stronger than OEM rods, if that strong.
Even high-$ rods can be risky. Cunningham is selling Dmax rods (not many out there IIRC), but they have collapsed on at least 1 engine that I personally know of.
I've tested both Crower and Carillo rods, by measuring them, then beating the crap out them, and then measuring again. AOK based on my testing.
I haven't tested Howards or RSR/TTS? rods yet, but I haven't heard any complaints.
I'm a rod consumer, not a dealer. For now, any engine I run will have Carillos or Crowers in them, with a nod to the Carillos since the Crowers are .010"-.004" longer than stock, and the small end is not as wide, which puts a higher load on the wrist pin.
2) Size and weight. Our rods are very large and heavy, which requires more metal, and more machining.
If it's any condolence, Cummins and Powerstroke aftermarket rods aren't any cheaper.
Wade Moody is hyping aluminum rods, which can be substantially cheaper. But the jury is still out on how well they work in daily drivers. I would be cautious. The amount of money you save doesn't come close to what a rod failure will cost you.
DuramaxTuner tried to put $1750 rods on the market by cutting corners, but they proved to be no stronger than OEM rods, if that strong.
Even high-$ rods can be risky. Cunningham is selling Dmax rods (not many out there IIRC), but they have collapsed on at least 1 engine that I personally know of.
I've tested both Crower and Carillo rods, by measuring them, then beating the crap out them, and then measuring again. AOK based on my testing.
I haven't tested Howards or RSR/TTS? rods yet, but I haven't heard any complaints.
I'm a rod consumer, not a dealer. For now, any engine I run will have Carillos or Crowers in them, with a nod to the Carillos since the Crowers are .010"-.004" longer than stock, and the small end is not as wide, which puts a higher load on the wrist pin.
sure appreciate that guys like you share what you have learned with everybody Mcrat! Saves new guys like myself alot of grief. The tech article in the June 2010 Diesel World mag explains the process involved in the manufacture of Carillo rods. They put alot of work into making sure you are getting the best possible product.
Wholesale on a set is ~$1500. Pay any more and it's just markup/supply demand. I'm guessing that in future years, sets will run ~1900 retail.
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I called and talked to carillo and they were only $100 cheaper then SoCal so I bought from Guy. Steve where did u get ur price from? For that much I'd buy some more just to make a paper weight out of
Just like pat said supply an demand if they were making as many duramax rod as SBC rods they would be dramaticly cheaper. There's also no way they even have a 1000 bucks into a set metals not that expensive nor the tests they do IMO anyway
That price is not available to the public but rather what the large connecting rod suppliers pay or there abouts... In business a 100% markup is VERY common so 1500$x2 is 3000$ weren't the carillos fairly close to that price initially?
7.3 are cheaper but the 6.0 and 6.4 rods are high bucks over the Carrillo Dmax rods.