sealant?Just an off day I guess. I was stuck batching a new formula all day
yeah, with what I'm hearing every few minutes on the news, it sounds like the new crisis. supreme court protest distraction????Hopefully
sealant?
new formula that's different or just trying to make the same with different ingredients? Acrilic, Latex, silicone, polyurethane, polyuria/aspartic? something else?Yeah, new stuff is being released next week and I’ve been working all week to make sure batching is correct. Lots of details to iron out on that plus making sure colorant works across the board with our standard stuff.
1.5 years in the making, I’m glad to see it in tubes and on the racks! It seems to have paid off with what I and all our market sample have come back with.
Jokes on us, he's secretly Walter White 2.0.................. The forum doesn't fund itself you know hahaHopefully
yup, completely new formula in comparison to the typical acrylic we sell. its a hybrid acrylic that mimics silicone. you can lay a thin layer (1000 micron thick) and stretch it 500% before tearing and thats with the sanded texture. non sanded will go 700%. the only thing we will never be able to mimic the property of is, 100% water submersable.new formula that's different or just trying to make the same with different ingredients? Acrilic, Latex, silicone, polyurethane, polyuria/aspartic? something else?
do you have issues with pigments such as iron oxide messing with the curing vs other pigments or dyes?
that pretty neat. I like typical acrilic caulking for pretty much anything not bathroom related. when I started reading the 500%-700% I was thinking who would need something with that much expansion unless the joint is really thin or some other weird condition. sure enough you described exactly what conditions would match that. I've had good luck using silicone for those conditions but I'd rather not use silicone if possible. polyurethane wood also work well, actually better if you can get over the longer cure times and messy application. sounds like your new stuff would fit the billyup, completely new formula in comparison to the typical acrylic we sell. its a hybrid acrylic that mimics silicone. you can lay a thin layer (1000 micron thick) and stretch it 500% before tearing and thats with the sanded texture. non sanded will go 700%. the only thing we will never be able to mimic the property of is, 100% water submersable.
basically, installers dont want to keep the expansion/movement joints clear of grout when doing tile. the grout cracks in a couple months and homeowner is calling them back out to repair. these guys wont dig out the grout and then apply the caulking, instead they lay a bead over top of the cracked grout, wipe it smooth and leave a thin layer that no latex caulk will hold up against. So in another month or two, contractor is getting a call again for cracked grout, contractor says its the caulk when its not and now we have to be the bad guys after a little investigating.
So this was initially designed to be used on poor installations but we got guys wanting it for exterior uses and countertop jobs because it wont crack, its FAR cheaper than silicone and easy clean up. My new house, i told the contractor (who uses our stuff) to caulk all the applicable joints because he flat out told me they dont do that. Low and behold, he didnt do it but luckily i had test samples of the new stuff so i had his guy come back out and apply the new stuff to ever single edge of tile that butted against the wall including all the showers. Dude wasnt thrilled but not my issue. He said "i only fix whats been blue taped", so i said "ill gladly go down to home depot and buy 3 rolls of blue tape to literally wrap the whole house in it if you want, look for your self my man, its all cracked". he nodded and set off to work lol. So far, not a single crack.
true, it would have to be a dual cartridge with the mixing tips. most don't use them because convenience.Yeah we have a company already looking heavy at matching their LVP colors and using it. I have to verify our shrinkage wont be an issue though. We meet ASTM standards but shrinkage its more noticable on LVP.
being it would a two part epoxy, many installers shy away from it. also leads to higher costs and epoxy is not something we are equiped to do. Another big issue is sag/self leveling of the product. Its very hard to make a 2 part epoxy thick enough right out of the gate to not sag or run down on a built up area or run down into thinset under tile, etc. it requires more volume of the product to work which is then more cost.
in a coating, thats a non issue.
lol see, you are going down the road we have looked at for 10 plus years. While new "hybrids" are being made every day, there is no "have your cake and eat it too", everything has a down side one way or the other.true, it would have to be a dual cartridge with the mixing tips. most don't use them because convenience.
maybe if you could figure out how to replace the epoxy with a urethane then you can make it a single component moisture cure but you'd also loose some of bond psi. not sure if urethane and siloxane can be made chemically compatible with the desired properties. I wonder if a vinyl ester caulking would have a place
exactly. then add in that silicones basically only have a 1 year shelf life and other issues and here we are lolsounds like you need a silicone emulsified in water. except keeping the water from ruining the silicone or donating it's oxygen for curing while in the tube would be a challenge. but I see your pain. any water clean up product has to be made to be water compatible in it's uncured phase which also makes it suspectable to water in it's cured form. all about polar and non polar