Question for those that run Scheaffer's oil

[Whitetail Addict]

I'm thinking of switching to it on my next oil change.

What oil are you guys running and what is your experience with it?

I've never been comfortable with the CJ-4 oils.

I found that the Moly Bond x200 15-40 is still CI rated and I liked the "theory" of the moly bonding.

 

[hondarider552]

What is the viscosity @ 100*C for that oil?

Oil can be badass and not last for shit. :thumb:

 

[Whitetail Addict]

Thanks Brian, I'll check that.

 

[Whitetail Addict]

TYPICAL PROPERTIES
SAE Grade
15W-40
Viscosity @ 100C, Cst (ASTM D-445)
14.00-16.00
Cold Cranking Viscosity @ -20C, cP (ASTM D-5293)
6,000
Mini Rotary Viscosity – TP 1 @ -25C, cP (ASTM D-4684)
24,000
High Temperature High Shear Viscosity, cP @ 150C (ASTM D-4683)
4.08
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)
140
Flash Point F/C (ASTM D-92)
442/227.78
Fire Point F/C (ASTM D-92)
485/251.67
Stable Pour Point F/C (FTM 7916 Method 203)
<-41/<-42
Scanning Brookfield Gelation Index @ -26F/-32C
4.5
Volatility % loss @700F (ASTM D-2887)
7.3%
NOACK Volatility (ASTM D-5800)
% Evaporation Loss @ 250C
13.37
Sulfated Ash Content % weight (ASTM D-874)
1.5%
Total Base Number (ASTM D-2896)
12
Shear Stability % Viscosity Loss 90 Passes (ASTM D-7109)
9.9%
Foam Test (ASTM D-892)
Sequence I
0/0
Sequence II
0/0
Sequence III
0/0
High Temperature Foam Test (ASTM D6082 Option A)
0/0
Cummins Bench Corrosion Test
Copper increase, ppm
8
Lead increase, ppm
57
Tin increase, ppm
<1
Copper Strip Corrosion (ASTM D-130)
1a
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Typical Properties Continued
MHT-4 TEOST (ASTM D- 6335)
Deposit Weight, mg
27.1
Engine Rusting Ball and Rust Test (ASTM D-6557)
Average Gray Value
133
Sequence IIIF
% Viscosity Increase @ 40C
35%

 

[Whitetail Addict]

Here are the specs of my current oil...

Test Analysis 15W-40


Viscosity @ 40°C................... 128 cSt
Viscosity @ 100°C.................. 15.6 cSt
Viscosity index.................... 127
HTHS @ 150°C....................... 4.3 cP
Pour point......................... -36°C
Flash point........................ 225°C
Total base number (TBN)..... 10.5 mg KOH/g
Sulfated ash level................. 1.0 mass %

 

[hondarider552]

Current oil your running is "better" than the oil your looking at, IMO.


What I have learned is that you need to look at the CST @ 100C. The minimum number a 15-40 viscosity oil should be is a 14.5. The Scheaffer's is a 14. (im sure it's a 16 if it's a 5-30 but not a 15-40) Your oil now is is 15.6. So, honestly, your oil exceeds the cleanliness minimum, while scheaffers meets it.

Then comes the oil sample, you want your same CST's to be as close to the "new" number as you can, lower CST's means the oil is breaking down, which all will do, some at a faster rate, some less. The highest viscostiy I have seen for a 15-40 is the Canadian oil I run, Petro Canada. Oil samples have proven my theory of cleaning up the soot in the oil.
:thumb:

 

[Whitetail Addict]

Thanks Brian, I appreciate the information.

I checked Sheaffer's 7000 15-40 and it was the same rating for viscosity @100*C.

 

[hondarider552]

Gotcha, well give it a shot, and run a sample after a few thousand miles. :thumb:

 

[Burn Down]

Current oil your running is "better" than the oil your looking at, IMO.


What I have learned is that you need to look at the CST @ 100C. The minimum number a 15-40 viscosity oil should be is a 14.5. The Scheaffer's is a 14. (im sure it's a 16 if it's a 5-30 but not a 15-40) Your oil now is is 15.6. So, honestly, your oil exceeds the cleanliness minimum, while scheaffers meets it.

Then comes the oil sample, you want your same CST's to be as close to the "new" number as you can, lower CST's means the oil is breaking down, which all will do, some at a faster rate, some less. The highest viscostiy I have seen for a 15-40 is the Canadian oil I run, Petro Canada. Oil samples have proven my theory of cleaning up the soot in the oil.
:thumb:

I'm not following you... What have pulling samples done for the soot level in the oil?

 

[jmaz268]

I have a case of it here...I'm gonna run it for 10k and do an oil analysis on it and see how it does....in the dmax and VW lol.