LLY: P1093/Surging Idle

darkone98

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Sep 12, 2012
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I had started loosing prime to the CP3 a few weeks ago, having to prime it manually before it would start. There were times down the highway where it would set P1093 and limp, and when cleared, it would instantly pop back up for about 5 minutes, it also seemed a little low on power. My idle CFR bounces from 2-5mm3 at idle sometimes, and causes a rough idle. desired rail pressure is 4.7 and actual flickers .1 off sometimes, however at WOT I can sometimes be 4k under desired, coming in at 19k and slowly building to full rail pressure.. Balance rates aren't awesome, but are within spec, worst being -2.8. I had already rebuilt the filter housing once, I figured that maybe it was failing again and drawing air, so I installed a Fass 150 Titanium on it. I am still loosing prime, and now it gets airlocked to the point of me having to crack the bleeder screw, but I haven't ran it long enough to guarantee that all the air is out. There are no visible fuel leaks, and idle is still surging sometimes when warm, and rail pressure still lags behind desired for a few seconds at WOT. I also noticed it smokes a little more when I step on it at idle, possibly due to the fass. These seem to be symptoms of a FPR to me, possibly the PRV on the rail. Tonight I will be doing a bottle test and possibly an injector return test to narrow down my problem, but will a failing CP3 still reach full rail pressure? Or is this just the FPR?
 

WI Huck

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First figure out your air issues. If your mileage is over 150,000 I would suggest a replacing the entire CP3 pump. The FASS should have helped the priming issue. Check all your connections and even bypass the factory filter assembly to see if that is still not the issue. With the FASS it should not suck air in after the FASS pump because that is now under pressure where as before it was all vacuum. Now the vacuum is between the FASS and the tank, so look there for places that air is getting into the system.
 

darkone98

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Sep 12, 2012
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Markerville, AB
I'm pretty sure my prime issue is solved, it fired up the last fee times without incident. I still have a rough idle and it doesn't built rail as quick as it should. This truck has 250k km on it, I am just going to replace the CP3. Does anyone know if the Exergy Sportsman pump will be a drop in replacement, or will I need tuning?