Info: Oregon Legislation HB 2186 Bans after market performance parts & tires

Subman

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McRat

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Link 2 busted?

Yeah, sounds like more assinine intrusion by over-paid pseudo-intellectual bureaucrats into the automotive engineering field.

If I'm reading that right, they want to ban off-road tires and performance tires because they raise CO2 levels from higher rolling resistance. Heck, it they ban ALL tires, it would be better! Run right on the rims.
 

ruffmanatv

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I am going to have to agree with Pat. I can't understand why they would want to ban different tires. Is there something else that is attached to this bill?
 

Subman

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Link 2 busted?

Yeah, sounds like more assinine intrusion by over-paid pseudo-intellectual bureaucrats into the automotive engineering field.

If I'm reading that right, they want to ban off-road tires and performance tires because they raise CO2 levels from higher rolling resistance. Heck, it they ban ALL tires, it would be better! Run right on the rims.


I redid the second link
 

Buccanoles

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I know Pat or nobody else (including me), wants political threads but expect more shit like this. "They" can do anything they want to in the name of reducing CO2 gases.
 

Alligator

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Thank you for your message regarding House Bill 2186. This bill reflects a concept created in the Governor's office. It was then referred to the House Committee on Environment and Water (on which I serve as one of eight members). At the bill’s first hearing, held on Tuesday, February 3rd, I explained to the witnesses from the DEQ that I was not happy with the concepts contained in the bill. The delegation of power to the DEQ is far too great and the economic impact of the bill is too far reaching. The bill will, I am sure, require additional public hearings.

I represent District 60 (Malheur, Baker, Harney, and part of Grant County). I am certain that a majority of my constituents will oppose many of the ideas in the bill, particularly those which will negatively impact our economy. I would strongly suggest and recommend that you contact your state representative and share with him (or her) your thoughts regarding this bill.


Very Truly Yours,


Representative Cliff Bentz
District 60

This is one response I got back this morning. Very positive.
 

TrentNell

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Bills like this scare me and they seem to pop up more often then they used to
usually the squeeky wheel get the most grease these days .:(
 

Subman

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This is one response I got back this morning. Very positive.
Yes I got the same letter, that legislator is from the eastside of the state which is very rural and very conserative. This state is really run by two places, Portland where the mayor is gay and under investigation for having an affair with a 17 year old boy, and Eugene where the U of O is located, porbably next to Berkley in being a liberal state University.
 

SmokeShow

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This is maybe gonna sound silly but would either of you mind sharing exactly what and how you approached the legislators you contacted? I've sent my thoughts to a state representative recently and never heard back. I don't know if its customary for them to respond or to just assume my message was delivered and hope they took the time to read it.

I'd just like to see what and how you expressed your thoughts in a way the provoked a response so that I may try that approach the next time I feel compelled to voice my opinion to the folks "representing" me.




As for the actual topic of this thread, yeah, it's BS and probably lots LOTS more of it to come in the months and years ahead on both the State and Federal levels. Strap in, it's gonna be a wild ride! :eek:
 

McRat

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I know Pat or nobody else (including me), wants political threads but expect more shit like this. "They" can do anything they want to in the name of reducing CO2 gases.

This isn't really "politics", it's hotrodding. I don't want members fighting each other over who is the better crook to waste our taxes, but when issues directly involve hotrodding, we are all on the same side.
 

Subman

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This is maybe gonna sound silly but would either of you mind sharing exactly what and how you approached the legislators you contacted? I've sent my thoughts to a state representative recently and never heard back. I don't know if its customary for them to respond or to just assume my message was delivered and hope they took the time to read it.

I'd just like to see what and how you expressed your thoughts in a way the provoked a response so that I may try that approach the next time I feel compelled to voice my opinion to the folks "representing" me.




As for the actual topic of this thread, yeah, it's BS and probably lots LOTS more of it to come in the months and years ahead on both the State and Federal levels. Strap in, it's gonna be a wild ride! :eek:


Here is a copy of the letter I sent, I just cut and pasted the parts out of the SEMA note and sent them to the members of the committee who are looking at this bill.

Gentlemen and Lady;

I strongly urge you to oppose H.B 2186. Here are just a few of the reasons:



H.B. 2186 would regulate vehicle fuel economy, an authority reserved to the federal government.


H.B. 2186 could ban tires that may have improved performance, handling or appearance features, based solely on a rolling resistance rating. In addition, this program could easily distract consumers from focusing on more important safety issues such as tire inflation and overloading of vehicles.


H.B. 2186 would force consumers to purchase only original equipment manufacturer (OEM) tires because the program essentially exempts OEM-selected tires and unfairly implies that they are superior to aftermarket products.


H.B. 2186 could prohibit aftermarket parts designed to either personalize or optimize specific vehicle performance attributes including handling, towing, suspension, fuel economy, etc.


H.B. 2186 provides broad authority to government regulators and could limit a range of aftermarket parts currently available to consumers based on the subjective determination of government regulators.

The passage of this bill would no nothing for the environment and further depress our economy by putting many small businesses who specialize in performance parts for vehicles out of business.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely

Ken Florey
 

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Dear Mr. Hunt,

I am not a resident of the state of Oregon, however I am an enthusiast and a supplier of Aftermarket Performance Parts. Almost all the parts that I sell typically make diesel pickups more efficient.

The typical aftermarket Air Intake system we sell, from brands like Banks, aFe or S&B filters, not only make vehicles more efficient, they also lessen your global foot print by creating less waste in your landfill and dependency on foreign oil.

By utilizing a re-usable aftermarket air filter, most guaranteed to work for 1 million miles (try to get an OEM paper filter to do that), you’ll see less OEM filters discarded into the trashcan. Let’s take a look at how many OEM air filters that aftermarket systems like this will save from your landfills. Over the average life of one diesel equipped pickup truck, the OEM filter is changed every 15,000 miles(or once a year). Times that by the average lifespan of the truck (400K miles), and that’s almost 27 OEM air filters that will not end up in your landfills. Now multiply that by the thousands of trucks that are running these types of kits just in your state, and you have saved a mound of used up paper filters. If you want to take that further, by using systems like these, less trees need to be cut down, less semi’s on the roads hauling lumber to the mill, less water – power – energy used to manufacture OEM paper filters, further lessens your global footprint.

Now let’s take the fuel efficiency into account. On average, these “Aftermarket” intakes systems increase fuel mileage by One Mile to the Gallon over the OEM intake that they replaced. The average diesel truck get’s 15 mpg and the average tank size is 29 gallons. That is 435 miles per tank of fuel. Now at 16 mpg after the installation of an ”Aftermarket Air Intake” the mileage range is extended to 464 miles. That truck is now traveling 29 additional miles on the same tank of fuel. This is the kind of resourcefulness that America needs to utilize, not discourage through poorly written legislation.

More importantly you need to consider of the amount of jobs that your state could lose due to this type of law making. I would think this type of ban would put several Performance, Tire and Customization shops out of business if they are not allowed to sell the products that their customers require. I would estimate the job loss in the thousands based on my simple Googling of custom automotive and tire shops in Oregon. In tough economic times like these, more job loss would put further strain on your states welfare system and on those families affected.

My wife made a good point while reading this, she said “That would be like the state telling me I cannot replace my Air Conditioner for a more efficient one because the Contractor would be using up the energy savings in transportation and installation…” It just doesn’t make sense.

Please rethink this legislation.

Sincerely,

Chad Hall
Alligator Diesel Performance
[email protected]
Call 1-866-255-7212
or Visit us @ www.alligatorperformance.com
 

Alligator

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Just for your information, I had not read or seen any of the SEMA responses, I wrote this myself way to late in the evening.
 

RPM Motorsports

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Sounds like all the peeps that moved there from Ca. are finally taking over. Looks like no more studded tires as well. wich could be seen as the state making your vehicle unsafe durring winter months (Law Suit).
 

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Thanks guys!! Fwiw in my correspondence I wasn't sure if detailed reasoning was customary or necessary or if I just simply needed to state my opinion. Kind of like answering a yes or no question with a two page paper. I chose to keep it uncharateristically simply (I typically am long winded) and simply stated my position on the topic at hand without much of my reasoning a to why I felt the way I did.

Looks like next time I won't be so "short" in expressing my opinion and reasonfor my position. That approah seems tohsve been rather lucrative.

Cya