Mid/large compound choices

Kramer

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Trying to decide between adding a tct483 to my DP 72mm 4094, is going to a gt5541/gtx4202 setup. Built motor & transmission, 75% over injectors, wicked cp3, AD 165, etc. Looking for 1000-1200 eventually. Planning on adding a cp3 or going to an exergy 12mm pump, and 100-120% injectors. What do you guys think? Not worried about towing anything over 5k lbs, just looking for an extremely high power street truck and occasional drag race.
 

clrussell

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Adding a s483 over the 72 will get you real close to your goal. And be the cheapest route.


I'm with mike, people have impressive numbers with a 72/483 and driveability is supposed to be awesome


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Verlon at ATP

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My Danville 72 with s482 dyno's 1000hp quite often. It has more fuel available, but I am happy with that number. If you have the stg2r from Mark, It makes for a very potent truck on the street.
 

Kramer

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I don't have the upgraded R vanes in my 72mm right now, but if I add a tct483 I'll send it to Mark and have him make it into a stage2r. I know pretty much everyone that has that combo loves it and consistently make 950+ with it. There is that gt5541/gtx4202 setup for sale in the garage sale on here though that is dirt cheap for what it is. I was wondering what the drivability would be like with that setup. I know it has the capability to reach my goals, but it might be a little too much and I'd have to sacrifice some drivability. Both options would be within $500 or so of each other, so I'm not too concerned with price.
 

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I know the kit you speak of and it is a great kit. If you don't do much towing, and have properly selected a converter for a kit that big it will be fine driving on the street.
 

moparkxracer

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I have the gtx4202r / gt5541 setup. It makes slot of power, I really don't get it out of tune 1 very often. It will break the tires loose at any speed, it makes way more power then can be used on the street, traction is a issue. People told me it would not spoil well it does. When the big charger starts to come on it sounds like a jet is abt to take off. I'd seriously look into getting the 483 if you are looking that direction. You will have more then enough power to hand people their asses
 

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I have a 72vgt/double bat S483. I haven't been able to dyno it (mostly because I live in the middle of nowhere :spit:). It makes gobs of power on the street. I haven't had it on anything above tune 3 and my tunes aren't fueled very hard. I have another dsp file with heavy fueling that I am too scared to load up :roflmao:. This winter the 72 is getting sent to Mark for the stg2 upgrade.
 

Kramer

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I know the kit you speak of and it is a great kit. If you don't do much towing, and have properly selected a converter for a kit that big it will be fine driving on the street.

This is Dustin's old kit lol, I guess you would know a decent amount about it. Do you know what converter he was running or if he tried a couple different ones? This was a big concern of mine with both setups actually. Currently I have an ML Precision triple disc with stock stall speed.

I have the gtx4202r / gt5541 setup. It makes slot of power, I really don't get it out of tune 1 very often. It will break the tires loose at any speed, it makes way more power then can be used on the street, traction is a issue. People told me it would not spoil well it does. When the big charger starts to come on it sounds like a jet is abt to take off. I'd seriously look into getting the 483 if you are looking that direction. You will have more then enough power to hand people their asses

Everything in the first half of that sounds exactly like what I want. Why do you suggest the 483? Is there anything you don't like about the gtx4202r/gt5541 setup other than too much power? What converter do you have, and how do you like it?

My vote is for the gt5541/gtx4202 setup you speak of:D

I've been seriously considering it. It's a good deal for sure. What direction are you going with the new build?

Sorry about all the questions guys, just looking to learn some valuable information.
 

moparkxracer

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You'll get more use out of the 483, yes it sounds nice saying you have a 76mm compounded with a 106, but 100 mph rolling burnouts are crazy, lol. I don't get the full use out of the big turbo. I had a 366/483 setup before this setup and it was more then enough to beat up on anyone on the street. I'm running a precision DA series converter. I really like the converter, it has the billet stator and couples very nice.

Don't get me wrong the gtx 4202 / 5541 is a very nice sounding setup, I enjoy the looks people give when the rpm's reach around 2k, after that the truck really becomes a rocket. If your on the fence abt doing it go for it. You'll never know until you try it. There are a few people on here that have rode in my truck, maybe they will chime in.
 
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Kramer

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You'll get more use out of the 483, yes it sounds nice saying you have a 76mm compounded with a 106, but 100 mph rolling burnouts are crazy, lol. I don't get the full use out of the big turbo. I had a 366/483 setup before this setup and it was more then enough to beat up on anyone on the street. I'm running a precision DA series converter. I really like the converter, it has the billet stator and couples very nice.

Don't get me wrong the gtx 4202 / 5541 is a very nice sounding setup, I enjoy the looks people give when the rpm's reach around 2k, after that the truck really becomes a rocket. If your on the fence abt doing it go for it. You'll never know until you try it. There are a few people on here that have rode in my truck, maybe they will chime in.


How's the in town drivability, say stoplight to stoplight, and what do you get for fuel mileage? And what do you think you are at HP wise on your smallest and biggest tunes? I'm more concerned with the small tune really. If drivability would decrease a large amount with this setup, I'd rather go with a DP 72/tct483, but if drivability isn't bad I wouldn't mind having a big twin setup. I always want to have more air available than what I have fuel for, and I don't think I would ever max out the 4202/5541 setup.
 

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I got around 15 mpg with it, my small tune was in the area of 750hp. I drove it in Washington, D.C. Traffic, you have to be care full when accelerating it will blacken out an intersection. I'm using 200% over injectors.

Drivableity wise in my opinion you'd be better off with the 72/83, and if you ever have turbo bearing problems the 483 can be rebuilt. The gt5541 can not, they make you buy a compete new center section for 2,200.
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I've gotten bored with the hobby so everything is going back to stock. I had planned on running 250% injectors with my setup, I wanted a goal of an easy 1100-1200. By no means did I need injectors that large, but wanted to leave room to grow. I was informed injectors around the 125-150% would get me to the 1100-1200 mark and still keep the level of smoke to a reasonable amount while on the street. With the 125-150% range injectors it would also allow a smaller tune 1 vs having a 800+ rwhp tune 1 with the 250's. If im remembering right, Dustin ran the ML-K converter from Mike L.
 

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Would 75% over injectors be enough to spool those chargers? Basically a 76mm with a 1.0 housing seems huge to try to spool with just 75's. I'd eventually end up with probably 150-200 overs if I go with this setup, but that'd have to be later.

Chris, do you have any videos of this setup on your truck? I'd like to hear how it sounds.
 

mike diesel

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75% overs would spool that just fine. I ran my 72/88 compounds on 30% sticks for a bit. My 72 is billet...72/87/1.0 and it spooled fine. The gtx42 has like a 82mm turbine if I'm not mistaken and it's ball bearing. I'd bet it spools easier than my 72 or atleast right there with it.
 

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Would 75% over injectors be enough to spool those chargers? Basically a 76mm with a 1.0 housing seems huge to try to spool with just 75's. I'd eventually end up with probably 150-200 overs if I go with this setup, but that'd have to be later.

Chris, do you have any videos of this setup on your truck? I'd like to hear how it sounds.