LMM DSP5 swtich won't switch and no volts

catman3126

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Just installed a DSP5 and tunes in an LMM and stays on the Non DSP setting. Pins are in the correct holes, triple checked that. The pins on the ECM aren't bent checked that. It's showing .598 volts on the red wire at the switch and the same right off the ECM, there is continuity between the ECM and the switch on both wires. I verified the OS that is in the ECM with the scan tool is in fact a DSP5 OS. the 5 setting lock is in the right spot also. is there something going on with DSP5 OS's or what else could it be?
 

catman3126

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He went home with running on the mom DSP tune now. How does he switch work does it recieve 5 bolts and run it through a resister and the ECM sees the voltage change or some other way? Even if the switch was bad would it still have 5 volts to it?
 

catman3126

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No kidding never had an issue with it. Still curious how this switch works now. I always thought it sent 5v to the switch and when the switch was changed the voltage was stepped down but apparently that's not the case?
 

catman3126

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yup. my experience with LMM's is once they are made into a DSP5 OS that stuff is already in there unlike the lb7 and lly.
 

TLKDRTYLLY

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Sorry for the shotty picture ahead of time, but this is a reply to how I'm sure the DSP switch works.
 

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TLKDRTYLLY

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*Numbers portrayed may not be 100% accurate*

The DSP switch is nothing but an adjustable "load on a circuit". Typically a switch/fuse/fusible link etc are not loads, but these ones have built in resistors in them. Depending on how you have your tunes set up, I'm going to say tune 1 is all the way to the right, in the switch that may have the least resistance from source voltage to ground showing .03v-.9v drop. Position 2 has a little more resistance, 3 has more resistance, 4 has even more and 5 has the most. You see a numeric voltage on the computer because the ECM is seeing a voltage drop across the circuit from this "Load" like you mentioned above.

For Example:

Tune 5:

Receives a 5v DC signal from the ECM, has the most resistance in that part of the circuit, the computer shows you the difference which is approx 4.0v-4.9v. Whenever your are doing a voltage drop the DMM or in this case ECM shows you the difference between the 2 points, not how much voltage is there.

Tune 4:
Receives a 5v DC signal from ECM, has a little less resistance than position 5 causing a smaller voltage drop. Should see 3.0v-3.9v

Tune 3:
Receives a 5v DC Signal from ECM, has less resistance than position 5 & 4, should show a reading of 2.0v-2.9v

Tune 2:
Receives a 5v DC Signal from ECM, has less resistance then positions 5,4,3. Should show a reading of 1.0-1.9V.

Tune 1:
Has the least resistance in the circuit. Will show a voltage drop <1.0v

Voltage is electromotive force. Voltage pushes amperage (current) through a circuit. Every time voltage encounters some resistance it gets used up. In a circuit, you will see source voltage all the way to the break in the circuit, or open in the circuit if its not grounded. So by adding more resistance with the 1-5 on the switch the ECM is knowingly sending out 5v, and is monitoring how much its receiving back, and makes its changes based on that much like a Throttle Position Sensor. If you see source voltage on the ground side of a circuit, you have a bad ground connection, or a dirty ground because now the ground is acting like a "Load" on the circuit and its using some of the voltage the switch was supposed to use.

Correct me If I'm wrong, but that is at least how I believe they work. I could be totally out in left field wearing football pads to a softball game. Let me know if I'm wrong or anything.