LLY: LB7 to LLY swap with LLY turbo and LB7 air intake and intercooler system

bonomax

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ok I did bit searching and can find any info on it. Prolly because never been done exactly like this or at least talk about alot. If some has please let me know and anyone that has any other insight thanks in advance. I So I am doing LLY swap like complete LLY top end, fuel system, ecm, ficm, wiring, etc... got all that figured out with help of Ben Tyler to figure out the wiring. So i am good and set there. just need figure out the LLY turbo.

I want to run LLY turbo with complete LB7 air intake and LB7 intercooler system with a 3.5" turbo horn with 3 inch y-bridge LB7 shorty and Lb7 stock intake manifolds. From talking with few people looking alot pictures i see there is clearance issue on the LB7 intake runners becase LLY and newer are dented in. Also I know there will be about .75 inch or so of clearance issue with 3" y-bridge and 3.5" turbo horn. I know there is easier ways like using all LLY air system stuff but I already have alot nice LB7 air system stuff like LB7 banks air intake and LB7 banks intercooler system. So I am dead set on using the LB7 system to do the swap. Yea i know i like to do things the hard way, ha.

So I took a look at alot single turbo setups on lb7 like s475 and wonder how they can run like 4 inch or bigger air intake and clear 3 inch y bridge. Then looked some stock Lb7 and LLY truck turbo's setups was like oh duh the stock turbo sit alot lower down in the valley of the block. So im think to solve all my clearance issues and still run lb7 air system stuff to raise the turbo up inch or 2. Has anyone every done this stock turbo or seen this done? thinking of just using like 1-2 inch thick steel plate to make spacer to go between where the turbo mounts to the block. Then Ill have to lengthen the oil lines and up-pipes. Oil return looks pretty simple to lengthen and prolly just run aftermarket steel braided oil feed. The up-pipes have those huge bellows. I was thinking of heating those up with torch and lengthen them like inch or 2. Would that be bad idea and shud just cut em and put piece in to lengthen them or should be ok stretching the bellows a bit?

any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 

paint94979

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Why not just upgrade your turbo? S466 would work well and your fitment issues would no longer be. You can't exactly just raise the stock turbo because the pedestal and turbo are one unit.
 

bonomax

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Oh thanks for pointing that but sorry i forgot that part I want to run work stock truck pulls so gotta run Lly turbo.

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paint94979

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What are you trying to find out lol? A 3 inch y bridge will clear the factory intake. You aren't going to be able to raise the stock turbo.
 

bonomax

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Im seein If anyone has ran setup like I want to run. Jason wherli said up 3 inch y bridge and 3.5 inch turbo horn will have interference issues. Y cant u raise a stock turbo if u mod the uppipes and oil lines?

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paint94979

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Not worth the effort in the least bit... I still run a stock 2.5 diameter ybridge and make 700hp FYI.
 

bonomax

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Really hmm. Now thats kind info im looking for. Idk wherli said stock lb7 is really restrictive. I really thought it was least restrictive of all stock dmax setups bc no egr. thats kinda what i was wondering is 3 inch y bridge really worth it. Yea I think ur right I'll just go with stock y bridge and see how it runs. Thanks man

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bonomax

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Yea thats what i thought at first. My trucks a Stock bottom end so only shoot for like 600hp or so

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For what it's worth, I moved my stock turbo up 1" iirc. Modded up pipes, oil drain, stock supply worked with some massaging. The pedestal also hits the drivers intake runner so had to grind the pedestal mount some.

Not worth it at the end of the day. Back to stock location haha
 

bonomax

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thanks Dallas. I knew sumone had to try it. I think I'm gonna try stock bridge and see how what kinda power it makes.

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I never dynoed, but I did trap 125mph with a stock y bridge. I don't see how you would ever see any benefit from going bigger, unless you're going fo built motor power,
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but guys run 3" LB7 runners with 3" Y-bridge all the time. The only problem I see you having is that you can't take your turbo horn for the IHI and make it work for a garrett, completely different connection.

Again I could be wrong but I didn't think the LLY turbo would hit LB7 intake runners.

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bonomax

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I never dynoed, but I did trap 125mph with a stock y bridge. I don't see how you would ever see any benefit from going bigger, unless you're going for built motor power,

ic damm 125mph like 11 sec truck. nah stock motor like 600hp range so dont blow up too quick ha. yea i think def going stock bridge then ha.
 

bonomax

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Correct me if I'm wrong but guys run 3" LB7 runners with 3" Y-bridge all the time. The only problem I see you having is that you can't take your turbo horn for the IHI and make it work for a garrett, completely different connection.

Again I could be wrong but I didn't think the LLY turbo would hit LB7 intake runners.

Yellowchevy

idk what 3 inch lb7 runners are unless you mean stock lb7 runners. i know the lly and newer runners have indent in the runners to clear VGT turbos exhaust housing. So i think there might be alil clearance issue with stock LB7 runners but think i can grind alil bit off the lly turbo exhaust housing. Also im gonna run turbo stock so i dont think heat sinking into runners shouldnt be a problem if its real tight fit.

Oh i know the LLY turbo has different flange. im gonna have welded on 3.5 inch tubing elbow for intake horn.
 

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If your going to use a complete LLY top end why not use the LLY runners with a 3 inch intake elbow for the runners to delete the EGR and then you wouldn't have any issue with clearances on the turbo. Then you could use the LB7 intercooler system and run a LBZ turbo mouthpiece fitted to the stock LB7 air box or CAI if you have one? Correct me if I miss understood what your trying to accomplish
 

bonomax

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Thanks and your mostly correct expect 04.5-05 LLY and 01 LB7 passenger side boost tubes are different. So I would need LLY banks passenger side boost tube. Also it would cost ton to do all that because I would need whole new LLY intake, LLY passenger side pipe, LLY ybridge and delete pipe. I already have LB7 banks air intake and intercooler system with 3 inch boost tubes.

I figure out what im gonna do. Thanks for all the input guys. Ill do full write up when its all said and done.