LB7 and Allison Transmission Issues

akhenaton22

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Hello,

New to the forums here. I try and do a lot of research before asking many questions so hopefully I haven't missed anything on this.

Bought a 2002 duramax two years ago. Purposely bought one with "newer" injectors. Truck now has 258,000 miles. Overall a good truck for its age. Starting to show it though (new T-stats needed, transfer case half replacement, and few others). Since I bought it though winters have been interesting. During the winter months the allison seems to have shift issues. Almost like it gets confused about what gear its in or needs to be in. Hard shifts, limp mode the first winter i had it (we had some really cold weather then for alabama, many days in the 20's and 30's lows in the teens and single digits) and host of weird shift problems. I know the allison's have the adaptive learning, but its always during the winter, and always the same P0700, U2104, U2105. Summers are smooth as silk and pulls my camper like a champ.

I recently finally found a decent mechanic that was worth what he charged. We've had many discussions on it. He did some work on it for me and ran his tech 2 scanner on it, hoping to help me out on the tranny. He checked balance rates and the injectors are starting take a turn for the worse so i'm saving up now for that. He suggested within the next year so that should be fun. We discussed the injectors, and are starting to try and piece together if they could be the source of the tranny issue, leaking more fuel then needed in the combustion chamber and causing the tranny to think the truck is under load (similar to pulling in tow mode). We've also checked grounds, wiring, etc. I've wondered if it could be a speed sensor, throttle positioning sensor, or something of the like. He is confused by its non-repeatable nature.

I've called many tranny shops, diesel, shops, etc with not much luck on isolating the problem. I don't want to go and start replacing stuff just on a hunch to find i spent 500 bucks for nothing. The problem is random, not repeatable at all.

The truck is not my daily driver, but i do like it and want to keep it. Comments welcome, thanks for helping.
 

WolfLMM

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Weird shifting can be from faulty fuel system components. Do you have a lift pump? How is the condition of the rubber fuel lines? New fuel filter? However, you have an actual trans code and I've never seen a fuel problem set off a real tcm code. P0700 is just a mil request from tcm, there is more codes set, need a better scanner.
 

JRein

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As far as injectors go, do you run an additive for the fuel? If you're not getting up to temp you're probably building up carbon on the injectors. Something with a good detergent would probably clear up your balances rates after you change the t-stats

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akhenaton22

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I run stanadyne during the winter months. I've run a bottle of startron before, but i don't think either one is a detergent (that i can remember off the top of my head).

I'll start to check my fuel lines . As old is the truck is i wouldn't be surprised if they need to be replaced. No lift pump in the truck.

I have the t-stats in hand and plan on replacing them i hope this weekend if it warms up (been real cold here). Also have a new fuel filter as well, so we'll see how both go. Supposed to get warm here again and then turn off cold, so we'll test her out again and see if it helps.
 

036.6turbo

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Cold temps and weird shifting? What condition are your batteries in? Low voltage can cause some odd behaviors.
 

akhenaton22

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Man what a world of difference a correctly connected terminal on a battery can make along with a fresh set of batteries and t-stats. Thing drives like a new truck.

I went to remove the battery I had not changed and found the negative cable barely on the battery. Also found the battery to be almost 7 yrs old. What difference.
 

036.6turbo

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Man what a world of difference a correctly connected terminal on a battery can make along with a fresh set of batteries and t-stats. Thing drives like a new truck.

I went to remove the battery I had not changed and found the negative cable barely on the battery. Also found the battery to be almost 7 yrs old. What difference.

:thumb::thumb:
 

akhenaton22

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Ran my dashcommand app after driving it home, got the following codes:

P0700
U1800
U2104
U2105
U2106
P1093 - This one is new, low fuel rail pressure during power enrichment? I just changed the fuel filter (on friday, today is sunday)

Also got balance rates with truck idling, warmed up with nothing else on:

Cyl 1 : -3.3mm
Cyl 2 : 0.3 mm
Cly 3: 0.4 mm
Cly 4: 0.4mm
Cly 5: 1.5mm
cly 6: 1.4mm
Cly 7: 0.6mm
Cly 8: -1.1mm

Shifts are no longer hard, just wakey and not when they should be. Seems to be getting worse too, more often then not some wakey shifts everytime i drive the truck.