Largest Injector On Single 12MM Pump

RobsDmax

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Just wondering how large of a injector I can flow with a single 12MM pump. Have 250's from S&S and have a spare stock LBZ pump or a 10MM also, just wondering how much fuel I need pump side.

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Just wondering how large of a injector I can flow with a single 12MM pump. Have 250's from S&S and have a spare stock LBZ pump or a 10MM also, just wondering how much fuel I need pump side.

Thanks.

My 14mm street pump from Exergy drops off rail after 1700us on my redman modded 250% overs in my LLY. I personally am disappointed in my 14mm in terms of what it can flow.

If you're going to aim for using them north of 1k hp I would run that 12mm and 10mm. Less duty cycle and guaranteed higher maintainable pressures.
 

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Kinda what I wondered. I was really hoping to stay conservative at 1k. That would be the most I can see myself making.

I figure my 1750us on these modded 250s should be close to 1050hp-1100hp of fuel (~320mm3). Being a street pump mine only drops AFTER 3500rpm. Up until 3500rpm my pump easily holds that duration.

If you have access to the 12mm AND 10mm I would honestly run those and never worry about needing more pump.

At 1565us/22deg/26ksi on Duramax Tuner's dyno I did 820/1748 with the shitty HSP S400 air filter installed. On the street removing the filter gained me 8-12psi of boost on my 75.
 

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Interesting cause I am moving up to 150 overs and looking at a 12mm cp3 on my 2011 built Co Cal Stage 2 LML with twins. Currently running 45 overs on a 10 MM CP3. I was considering the 14MM but now think I will go with the 12MM.
 

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Interesting cause I am moving up to 150 overs and looking at a 12mm cp3 on my 2011 built Co Cal Stage 2 LML with twins. Currently running 45 overs on a 10 MM CP3. I was considering the 14MM but now think I will go with the 12MM.

A race 14mm is awesome. Mark at Danville is holding 2200US on his race 14mm with LBZ 250% overs in his white truck. The street pump has a different gerotor section and some other small internal tweaks according to Exergy.

If you already have the 10mm just add a stocker over it and be done. That is tons of fuel. I went with the street pump because I did some horse trading with another member on here.
 

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A race 14mm is awesome. Mark at Danville is holding 2200US on his race 14mm with LBZ 250% overs in his white truck. The street pump has a different gerotor section and some other small internal tweaks according to Exergy.

If you already have the 10mm just add a stocker over it and be done. That is tons of fuel. I went with the street pump because I did some horse trading with another member on here.

OK, I am going to look into that, thanks. With my setup I know I can move up and just wanted some opinions on which way would be better for a street truck. Currently sitting at 830 RWHP.
 

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OK, I am going to look into that, thanks. With my setup I know I can move up and just wanted some opinions on which way would be better for a street truck. Currently sitting at 830 RWHP.

That being said, I know if you can wait on fuel until Thanksgiving LDS/S&S usually have a damn good sale on 10mm pumps, to the point where you can snag one for ~$1450-$1500.
 

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That being said, I know if you can wait on fuel until Thanksgiving LDS/S&S usually have a damn good sale on 10mm pumps, to the point where you can snag one for ~$1450-$1500.

Thxs, I am planning on S&S 150 overs and install will be near the end of this month.
 

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Gotcha. If you need any parts let me know, I can see what I can do in terms of pricing on a pump to help you out.

Don't know if I'm allowed to post that or not, waiting for a mod to say something if I can't.


I realize you're trying to help (you also mentioned GM parts in another post), but don't. Your only warning.
Sorry I have to be the jerk, guys.
 

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I realize you're trying to help (you also mentioned GM parts in another post), but don't. Your only warning.
Sorry I have to be the jerk, guys.

Yup, that was pre-PMs.

Noted. I'll look at becoming a vendor for others here, no reason to get scalped at the dealer.
 

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a 14mm should be able to supply more than 1750uS IMO.....

We run 250s in our 2.5 truck with danville tuning and with a 12mm we can hold 2200uS just fine. You might want to check inj return rates.
 

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a 14mm should be able to supply more than 1750uS IMO.....

We run 250s in our 2.5 truck with danville tuning and with a 12mm we can hold 2200uS just fine. You might want to check inj return rates.

Street pump or race pump?

Like I said, my pump only falls off after 3500rpm. After talking to Mark @ Danville and Bob @ Duramax tuner they believe that is where they think it could be due to the restrictions above that rpm.

I'll do a return rate test.
 

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Im running 2 stock LBZ pumps with 250s and they hold rail at 22-2400uS, I don't remember what Mark set it at exactly.
 
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Street pump or race pump?

Like I said, my pump only falls off after 3500rpm. After talking to Mark @ Danville and Bob @ Duramax tuner they believe that is where they think it could be due to the restrictions above that rpm.

I'll do a return rate test.

It’s a 12mm pimp. There’s no race or street version. But we turn 42-4300rpm for what it’s worth and hold 29k
 

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It’s a 12mm pimp. There’s no race or street version. But we turn 42-4300rpm for what it’s worth and hold 29k

I'll dig into.

Going to check the fuel supply pressure and ensure I've got 10-15psi POST FICM going directly into the 8AN feed.



If I don't have a supply issue (either I up the pressure or its fine) and it still drops rail the injectors are coming out for testing.



If the injectors test good I'm going back to the guy I got the pump from used who said it was a good pump and going to see what he wants to do about it.