Hub / axle?

[05chevy]

Hey guys I was racing the other week and broke something in the front diff. So I lulled the axles out so I could still drive my truck. The hub bearing were fine before I pulled the axles. I drove it about 10 mile and then notice my brakes were getting soft. Well the pedal was. Brand new brakes. Well then I heard a pop like my brakes were dragging. Got it home. And I trashed a rotor and brake pads. And now both of my hub bearings are done. Would the axles not being in cause that? All I can think of is the back of the axle and the nut holding it on would help keep the bearing together. Just I thought and just trying to figure out why they went so fast. Rookie mistake I guess. Thanks for any help

 

[TNRGreene]

The bearings will seperate if the CV is not in holding it together. Sorry but you called it "rookie mistake" sucks for sure.

 

[madmatt]

yep the axle and nut holds that hub assembly all together. Don't worry I've seen it happen several times from guys thinking they could do the same thing.

 

[D-MAX Mafia]

Made that mistake once...

Still drove on the same "stock" rotors and brake pads for another year.

New hubs are pretty cheap through dmaxstore.com and they have a lifetime warranty.

 

[blk smoke lb7]

Made that mistake once...

Still drove on the same "stock" rotors and brake pads for another year.

New hubs are pretty cheap through dmaxstore.com and they have a lifetime warranty.

Wow good info :thumb:

 

[TheBac]

If the bearings separate without the CV shaft installed, then what about 2wd trucks? They use the same bearings as 4wd.

IMO, something else is wrong.

 

[RandoTx]

plus don't the 4 bolts hold it to the knuckle?

 

[blk smoke lb7]

Wow that sucks i would have thought they would have held together,ive thought of pulling mine to see if it would make a difference on a long trip glad i didnt get out of town and have my hubs come apart

 

[JD4440]

If the bearings separate without the CV shaft installed, then what about 2wd trucks? They use the same bearings as 4wd.

IMO, something else is wrong.

yep nothing there on a 2wd, even the 4 bolts only hold a single flange

 

[hondarider552]

I drove probably 50 miles without CV's when I broke my front diff, didnt have any issues? I was told my wheel was going to fall off, but the same wheel bearing on my truck is same as the 2wd's so I wasnt worried at all.

 

[paint94979]

I drove probably 50 miles without CV's when I broke my front diff, didnt have any issues? I was told my wheel was going to fall off, but the same wheel bearing on my truck is same as the 2wd's so I wasnt worried at all.

Brian any more lip from you and you'll be getting a vacation

 

[hondarider552]

Hey, go fix your fuel leak. :rofl:

 

[D-MAX Mafia]

The new hubs from Timken will hold together without CVs in. The factory hubs will not!

And no, 2wd hubs are not the same as 4wd hubs on stock trucks. I've replaced them both.

 

[hondarider552]

The new hubs from Timken will hold together without CVs in. The factory hubs will not!

And no, 2wd hubs are not the same as 4wd hubs on stock trucks. I've replaced them both.

Gotcha, I have Timkins in my front end, maybe thats why.

Whats different about them Ben?

 

[D-MAX Mafia]

The inner part that the splined end slides through is swedged out and then smashed flat to hold the two pieces together without a CV in there. Stock bearings are just pressed together and the CV holds them together.

Timken redesigned them close to two years ago. Now they only have to make one bearing for both 4wd and 2wd. I believe it will also fit 8 lug GM trucks from the 90s.

I have an old stocker and a new model at home. I'll take a pic and post it up.

 

[TheBac]

Thanks for explaining that.

 

[hondarider552]

Very neat Ben, didnt know that, post up that pic when you get a chance. Thats probably why I never had an issue with mine.

 

[D-MAX Mafia]

You bet guys, not a problem. I will get a pic up tomorrow. I forgot that they were at my buddies shop but I'm heading over there tomorrow.

 

[05chevy]

Good deal thanks guys I guess ill be ordering a set from dmaxstore and then I can atleast drive my truck till I get the front diff fixed.

 

[05chevy]

theres my carnage of my front diff off to the junk yard i go